Posted on 01/18/2007 9:27:26 AM PST by Dark Skies
Alright, I'm in enough trouble over that post already without you pilin' on!!! :)
Rudy's a tough SOB. I think he can handle Hillary. But, that said, this is gonna be a tough, dirty election.
Look peaches, I try to be nice to my fellow freepers here but enough is enough. You're not bright enough to use condescension effectively. When you state that the GOP will have to find a way to win without Evangelicals, it evidences not just a remarkable naivete about where the GOP gets it votes from but the statement means exactly what it says, that the GOP will have to split from the Evangelicals. The reason for that split can not mitigate the split itself, it is irrelevant to the fact that there must be a split in your hubris filled view. Comprende?
And now onto Global Warming. Please provide a poll, or some proof (any proof) showing Evangelicals abandoning the GOP in droves because of Global Warming.
Rudy's toughness is not the issue, the fabricated perceptions that will have to be dealt with is the issue. And you know the leftists worshipping at rodhamster's knee will make every effort to manipulate voters so the depth of the issues must be explored now, before the fact, to establish ways to deal with the deceptions and detritus.
"...alternative to abortion..."???
hmmmmm...Let me think...
Seems to me it takes two to tango...And there are too many people dancing that shouldn't be doing that in the first place...
The difficulty is that the main effort is trying to legislate social behavior...Very difficult to pass, yet even harder to enforce...
Even if you took away the ability to fund and perform abortive procedures, there is too much of a stigma in popular "liberal" thinking that abortion is just anothre form of birth control...But at the wrong time...
The way to stop unplanned pregnancies is to just stop tango-ing (until of course yer ready for the real fun in dealing with a human life)...But try to get that "just say no" idea into the over-hormonal driven teenage brain matter...
I do not share your belief that Rudy will not listen and adjust since I see he has done so in the past. I am absolutely certain hillary will not listen to any conservative voices because she is first and foremost a leftist democrat.
BTW, I just don't see Gulianni being nothing more than a nice guy, who did his city proud by doing what he could through a very serious, national crisis...He will always have my respect for that effort...
Everything else...nahhhh...
Well, that's certainly fair enough Marvin. We will see how Rudy finesses his support for partial birth abortion in the months to come.
I am absolutely certain hillary will not listen to any conservative voices because she is first and foremost a leftist democrat.
That she is.
"This is, of course, false. There are fewer abortions now than there used to be because of the bully pulpit and years of hard work."
There are fewer abortions now because there are fewer unwanted pregnancies. Teen pregnancy rates have been declining for years. There has been a change in education, no real significant chances hearts.
One of most important roles of the POTUS is to pick SCOTUS Judges.
Rudy has gone on the record with a totally satisfactory answer for Conservatives, and yet, it doesn't satisfy you.
One is never going to find, in real life, the ideal perfect candidate.
Politics is the art of the possoble.
Absolute nonsense. The baby boomer generation was the zenith for the "pro choicers', their progeny are much more pro life. So hearts and minds have been changed.
The anti-Rudy crowd ignore facts they don't like, trump up their differences with Rudy and ignore the issues they agree with him on, and ignore political realities or either they are naive and ignorant of these realities. There is no reasoning with them.
Today's 18-25 year olds are more socially liberal than any other age group. And yes, unwanted pregnancies and teen pregnancies have been dropping for years and that accounts for the drop in the number of abortions. Do you really believe we will reach a day where we can outlaw all abortions in all states?
"I only want to know one thing. Would Rudy appoint pro-life judges, a la Roberts and Alito. If so, I'd consider him."
read the article in post #202 He is your guy if you want another Ruth Bader Ginburg.
I would decline that offer.
Rudy has said he supports strict constructionist. He has said Scalia is his favorite justice. He said that Ginsburg was "good" in that she was qualified.
I’d give my daughter the money for it........
And this is where I have a problem with him. He doesn't like it, yet....
His character is flawed! If we can't trust him to uphold the most sacred contract he will ever enter in to, we can't trust him to uphold other laws. Besides, I will NOT vote for anyone who is anti gun. He cannot be trusted, so it really doesn't matter to me what his position is on anything else.
Truth matters.
And no I don't believe we will reach a day when all abortions can be outlawed. That says nothing about working toward the goal itself.
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