Posted on 01/17/2007 4:24:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
....sound like the actions of someone who was firing at an illegal...scaring them back to Mexico and then leaving the sceen. Nothing left to do..
I'm glad their on my side.
Wow. There's a whole lot of weasel words in that mess.
One word: BULL!
They didn't cover up anything. They just didn't report it.
The record shows, for a fact, they acted legally and thought the perp had a gun at the time. Let's see you make better split second decisions when you see your partner lying on the ground and you don't know why (we've learned he was trying to find the defendant but the agent didn't know that).
The facts are clear. This guy was smuggling 400 pounds of pot into the country and resisted and ran. That's good enough to shoot him for fleeing alone.
Geez, people like you are why we are in trouble. These guys refused all the "plea bargains" they were offered because, and I know this is hard for you to understand, they DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG! They were railroaded pure and simple because we all know, while most here don't want to hear the truth, that Border agents are told to basically look the other way.
Do we enforce our laws or not? THIS WAS A DRUG SMUGGLER!
Pitiful.
Is there anything in the article on where they are being imprisoned? sorry didnt really have time to go through the whole thing.
These guys are going to get eaten up in jail. In cases like this, are the guilty put in special cells away from other inmates?
Spot on Pukin. Laws are laws and all of them should be enforced. Law enforcement officers are no exception.
I don't know. I just know they got 11 and 12 years respectively.
Which is another reason to get ticked off. Actual murderers don't get that kind of time any longer and they killed no one.
Yes. And that is what everyone (including you) is complaining about here. Did you read post 44?
Put down the Kool-Aid and pick up a cuppa Joe for a change.
And who leads the GOP right now??
(clue: he sits in the Oval Office behind that big wooden desk)
Have you read the way these guys were railroaded? The fact our government gave extraordinary amnesty to criminals to pursue this case? The fact the mother of the so-called victim has connections to higher ups in the Border Patrol agency?
This stinks. Wake up.
Sutton is a bureucratic pimp.
Answer the question...Did you read post 44?
Three of whom have now come forward to say they were coerced by the prosecutors to find the agents guilty.
If true, why did the prosecutor need to do this if these agents were so 'slam-dunk' guilty?
On February 17, 2005, Ramos and Compean were patrolling the border town of Fabens, Texas, when a Mexican illegal alien and drug smuggler, attempted to secret nearly 800 pounds of marijuana into the United States in his van. Agent Compean chased Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila by vehicle and on foot, ordering him to stop. Compean says Aldrete-Davila ignored him, pushed him down, and assaulted him, whereupon the agent called for backup, drawing seven additional units, including Ramos. When he arrived on the scene, he heard gunfire, saw Compean bleeding on the ground, and the fugitive still refusing to stop as commanded stealing furtive glances over his shoulder while holding something shiny he believed to be a handgun. Both state they felt threatened, and both fired rounds in the aliens direction, Ramos striking him in the buttocks. The alien got away, but the two men had jeopardized their own well-being to keep his noxious contraband off our streets.Returning to Mexico, Aldrete-Davila related his misfortunes to his mother, who contacted the mother-in-law of Border Patrol agent Rene Sanchez. Sanchez in turn tipped off a member of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, who went to Mexico to offer immunity if Osbaldo would act as a states witness against Ramos and Compean: the feds wanted to prosecute the agents shooting the alien narcotics supplier.
To sweeten the immunity deal, the feds paid for Osbaldo Aldrete-Davilas medical treatment of his ailing backside a taxpayer-funded recuperation at William Beaumont Army Medical Center in El Paso, Texas. He showed his gratitude by breaking his immunity agreement in October 2005, when officers say he attempted to smuggle 1,000 pounds of marijuana into America. The prosecution further extended its immunity to this felony and sealed the indictment from jurors. Aldrete-Davila repaid this new shower of grace by suing the federal government for $5 million, alleging the shooting violated his civil rights. However, he agreed to help in their criminal prosecution, as well, and the feds are apparently happy to collaborate with the pusher as long as he helped put effective lawmen behind bars.
All true. What I object to is giving the drug runner immunity to testify. Are the rules of engagement so important that they had to give immunity to an international drug dealer in order to secure such a conviction?
If I were a prosecutor, I would have tried to make my case without it, knowing that they'd be fired anyway.
Unfortunately this case is indeed a travesty of justice, and the administration's response a black mark on their legacy.
Bite me. Of course I read the bureaucrat BS. Amazing how, on this issue, normally skeptics of government liars are buying into this crap when it's clearly a cover up to hide the fact we don't care what goes on at the border.
I bet you don't believe they want to use the SPP and create a North American Union and one currency. I bet you think only kooks are convinced law enforcement is turning a blind eye to illegal immigration from the top down.
Oh wait a minute. What am I thinking? Of course you're correct. I should totally believe Sutton. And DA Nifong. And Bob Bennett. And Sandy "I'm just careless" Berger. And the Hair Club For Men. And Bill "I never had sex with that woman" Clinton.
I still wouldn't have given the guy immunity if it were me. I've never understood the notion that shooting at a person running from law enforcement is not prima facia evidence of intent to harm.
I'm sorry, are you accusing the poster of being rational?
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