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To: Raycpa
An interesting piece of data. The Hebrew terms ben(01121) 'elohiym(0430) are only found together in 4 verses of the Old Testament. They are always used to indicate angels.

(Strong's 01121)
Hebrew for 01121
ben
1) son, grandson, child, member of a group
a) son, male child
b) grandson
c) children (pl. - male and female)
d) youth, young men (pl.)
e) young (of animals)
f) sons (as characterisation, i.e. sons of injustice [for un- righteous men] or sons of God [for angels]
g) people (of a nation) (pl.)
h) of lifeless things, i.e. sparks, stars, arrows (fig.)
i) a member of a guild, order, class

(Strong's 0430)
Hebrew for 0430
'elohiym
1) (plural)
a) rulers, judges
b) divine ones
c) angels
d) gods
2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)
a) god, goddess
b) godlike one
c) works or special possessions of God
d) the (true) God
e) God

Gen 6:2 That the sons 01121 of God 0430 saw 07200 the daughters 01323 of men 0120 that they 02007 [were] fair 02896; and they took 03947 them wives 0802 of all which they chose 0977 .

Gen 6:4 There were giants 05303 in the earth 0776 in those days 03117; and also after 0310 that 03651, when 0834 the sons 01121 of God 0430 came in 0935 unto the daughters 01323 of men 0120, and they bare 03205 [children] to them, the same 01992 [became] mighty men 01368 which [were] of old 05769, men 0582 of renown 08034.

Job 1:6 Now there was a day 03117 when the sons 01121 of God 0430 came 0935 to present 03320 themselves before the LORD 03068, and Satan 07854 came 0935 also among 08432 them.

Job 2:1 Again there was a day 03117 when the sons 01121 of God 0430 came 0935 to present 03320 themselves before the LORD 03068, and Satan 07854 came 0935 also among 08432 them to present 03320 himself before the LORD 03068.
47 posted on 01/15/2007 10:10:14 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: bondserv; Raycpa
Read Genesis again. But this time wherever you see the word God/Elohiym read it as Gods or Race of Gods and wherever you read Lord God/El Elohiym read it as "the leader of the God or Race of Gods" After having done this revisit your inquiry into Nephilim.

Kind of interesting when viewed this way. Further this plural take on Elohiym is consistent with earlier and similar Sumerian/Egyptian genesis like renditions.

If man was made in Gods' image then perhaps their images were/are alike enough such that a union of both could give rise to a viable amalgam - (i.e. nephilim). Reading Genesis can be a real trip. And, depending upon how it is read, it reveals frightening possibilities.
58 posted on 01/17/2007 3:27:54 PM PST by StructuredChaos
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