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To: cowboyway
Then seek a legal remedy. Nations sue nations all the time.

Really? And in 1861 what was the legal remedy? What court was available for the U.S. to sue in?

And I notice you don't try to justify the Southern actions. Just say "Sue me."

And ALL people have a right to be protected by the Constitution unless they give up citizenship here for another country. Then they are at the mercy of that country's rules, or lack of. Should these people be forced to continue to pay US taxes because we need the revenue?

No body is talking about paying U.S. taxes. But the Southern states abrogated responsibility for their share fo the debt, repudiated treaties, stole what they wanted and threatened the central U.S. And you want us all to believe the Constitution supported such actions. How nuts is that?

Individual freedom is scary? That says a lot about you.

Thinking the Constitution protects theft and being a dead-beat says a lot about you, too. As well as your notion that only those leaving had any rights that needed protecting.

185 posted on 01/17/2007 2:17:15 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

But the Southern states abrogated responsibility for their share fo the debt, repudiated treaties, stole what they wanted and threatened the central U.S.

This is disingenuous, at best. Surely you are aware that one of the Confederate government's first acts, in March 1861, was to send three peace commissioners, headed by John A. Campbell, to Washington to resolve the very issues you are accusing the Confederates of abrogating. (I also believe the commissioners carried assurances of continued free Northern access to the Gulf via the Mississippi, but I'll have to check on that). At any rate, Lincoln refused to meet with them.

186 posted on 01/17/2007 6:53:01 PM PST by Texas Mulerider
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To: Non-Sequitur
And in 1861 what was the legal remedy?

The north chose a military solution.

And I notice you don't try to justify the Southern actions

I don't have to. It's all well documented.

South Carolina Secession Declaration

No body is talking about paying U.S. taxes. But the Southern states abrogated responsibility for their share fo the debt,

You may not realize it, but this country's debt is paid through the collection of taxes.

Thinking the Constitution protects theft and being a dead-beat says a lot about you, too.

Oh please. This country was stolen at least twice; once from the British and once from the American Indian. Do you feel inclined to provide restitution to those two groups from your lofty perch?

As well as your notion that only those leaving had any rights that needed protecting.

As opposed to your notion that only the ones left have rights and, furthermore, those rights outweigh all others.

That's been the problem between the north and South all along. The north has always believed in equal rights as long as theirs are a little more equal.

190 posted on 01/18/2007 9:50:26 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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