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To: UNGN

National Debt, 9/29/06 (FY end) = $8,506,973,899,215.23
National Debt, 1/10/07 = $8,673,367,073,665.76

Difference = $166,393,174,450.53

Additional Debt per day (103 days) = $1,615,467,713.11

He's right. The debt has increased by approximately $1.6B PER DAY since September 29.

Keep in mind, day of the week can matter as debt is issued on certain days regardless of the calendar date, and is issued before the money is spent.

However, the on-budget numbers end up very close to the total debt numbers. The $80 B number you're using is AFTER they raid SSI, railroad, gov't pensions, etc....

The fact that people drink the koolaid the government (both parties) spew in terms of using off-budget numbers doesn't mean its right.


27 posted on 01/12/2007 1:31:27 PM PST by eraser2005
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To: eraser2005; UNGN; CottShop; avacado
However, the on-budget numbers end up very close to the total debt numbers. The $80 B number you're using is AFTER they raid SSI, railroad, gov't pensions, etc....

The fact that people drink the koolaid the government (both parties) spew in terms of using off-budget numbers doesn't mean its right.

Correct. Following are figures from the latest Monthly Treasury Statement:

               SURPLUS (+) OR DEFICIT (-) (billions of dollars)

                                                               Fiscal     Prior
                                                              Year to    Fiscal
                                     Oct      Nov      Dec       Date      Year
--------------------------------  -------  -------  -------  --------  --------
Total-surplus (+) or deficit (-)  -49.321  -75.615  44.535    -80.401  -119.381
(On-budget).....................  -51.836  -76.423  -7.104   -135.362  -169.626
(Off-budget)....................    2.514    0.807  51.639     54.961    50.245

Source: Monthly Treasury Statement of Receipts and Outlays of the U.S. Government, page 29,
        online at http://www.fms.treas.gov/mts/mts1206.pdf

As can be seen, the "total" or "reported" deficit for the past three months was $80.4 billion but the on-budget deficit was $135.4 billion. The latter figure includes the monies being borrowed from Social Security. Furthermore, according to the following figures from the Treasury website, the total debt has increased $173.2 billion in the past three months, over double the reported deficit of $80.4 billion.

            TOTAL FEDERAL DEBT (billions of dollars)

                                 Intra-
  Fiscal   Debt Held              Gov't              Total
 Year End  by Public   Change  Holdings   Change      Debt   Change
---------- --------- -------- --------- -------- --------- --------
12/29/2006    4901.0     57.9*   3779.2    115.3*   8680.2    173.2*
 9/29/2006    4843.1    241.9    3663.9    332.4    8507.0    574.3
 9/30/2005    4601.2    293.9    3331.5    259.8    7932.7    553.7
 9/30/2004    4307.3    383.3    3071.7    212.6    7379.1    595.8
 9/30/2003    3924.1    370.9    2859.1    184.1    6783.2    555.0
 9/30/2002    3553.2    213.9    2675.1    206.9    6228.2    420.8
 9/28/2001    3339.3    -66.0    2468.2    199.3    5807.5    133.3
 9/28/2000    3405.3   -230.8    2268.9    248.7    5674.2     17.9
 9/30/1999    3636.1    -97.8    2020.2    227.8    5656.3    130.1
 9/30/1998    3733.9    -55.8    1792.3    168.9    5526.2    113.0
 9/30/1997    3789.7             1623.5             5413.1

* change for first three months
Source: U.S. Department of the Treasury, Bureau of the Public Debt,
        online at http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm

The total debt includes the monies being borrowed from all of the trust funds, including Social Security. This is the debt that is currently approaching $9 trillion and has been increasing by over a half trillion dollar a year for the past four years. It will likely increase by over a half trillion dollars again this year. Hence, while we should be glad that the deficit is not increasing faster, there is little to celebrate in these figures.

34 posted on 01/14/2007 1:39:30 AM PST by remember
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