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Texas Congressman Ron Paul files for GOP presidential bid
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Posted on 01/11/2007 6:06:07 PM PST by Rodney King

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To: budwiesest; Rodney King
How's Ron on 'our' border security?

Immigration and the Welfare State, by Ron Paul

61 posted on 01/11/2007 6:43:05 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: BigTom85

The only issue that I am a one issue voter is defense. Without a strong defense the other issues mean nothing. That alone would keep me from supporting him so I don't think I will waste my time on him. Thanks anyway.


62 posted on 01/11/2007 6:43:08 PM PST by Kath (Luvya Dubya)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Wow, better than I thought. thanks.


63 posted on 01/11/2007 6:44:12 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: BigTom85
plus it's going to cost the tax payers a ton of more money.

That's the problem, too much money is being made by those 'connected', and solving the problem in Iraq puts an end to the gravy train.

What this country needs is: not another 'insider'. Connections be damned, we, the people haven't been connected to our "Constitution" in a long time.

If I could, I'd vote for someone who's never held public office in their life while having a good understanding of 'government by the people'.

64 posted on 01/11/2007 6:44:31 PM PST by budwiesest (I approve of this message.)
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To: traviskicks

Cindy Sheehan's favorite is running. You must be so proud.


65 posted on 01/11/2007 6:44:44 PM PST by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71 US Army 75-79 3d Inf Old Guard)
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To: CWOJackson
The Shiites and Kurds celebrate his death, as do the Iranians and especially bin Laden – all enemies of Saddam Hussein. We have performed a tremendous service for both bin Laden and Ahmadinejad, and it will cost us plenty.

Somebody tell Paul that if we leave Iraq, Ahmadinejad and bin Laden will celebrate.

66 posted on 01/11/2007 6:45:40 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Paul? Add another non-conservative to the list.

Hes for cutting the federal payroll.
Hes for eliminating useless alphabet soup groups.
Hes pro gun.
He supports chopping funding to the UN.
Hes a lot better than Mr. Bush if you ask me. Bush a NOT a conservative.. aside from a few small things, he has done nothing conservative.

A conservative is someone who wants to cut the size of government and eliminate endless and useless bureaucracy- Bush has done one hell of a job on that!! ((Sarc))
67 posted on 01/11/2007 6:45:50 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Ron Paul is quoted in todays Houston Chronicle:

"I do not favor committing more troops to this ill-considered adventure in Iraq. I think we should bring the troops home as soon as we can. I'd back a plan to withhold spending associated with a troop increase. That would be a good way to keep (an increase) from happening".
68 posted on 01/11/2007 6:47:20 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Rodney King

Problem is he doesn't seem to think a military is necesary. That's probably where he would cut.


69 posted on 01/11/2007 6:47:35 PM PST by Kath (Luvya Dubya)
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To: Rodney King
Yep, here's the meat of his essay:

"Our most important task is to focus on effectively patrolling our borders. With our virtually unguarded borders, almost any determined individual- including a potential terrorist- can enter the United States. Unfortunately, the federal government seems more intent upon guarding the borders of other nations than our own. We are still patrolling Korea’s border after some 50 years, yet ours are more porous than ever. It is ironic that we criticize Syria for failing to secure its border with Iraq while our own borders, particularly to the south, are no better secured than those of Syria."

"We need to allocate far more of our resources, both in terms of money and manpower, to securing our borders and coastlines here at home. This is the most critical task before us, both in terms of immigration problems and the threat of foreign terrorists. Unless and until we secure our borders, illegal immigration and the problems associated with it will only increase."

"If we took some of the steps I have outlined here - eliminating the welfare state and securing our borders - we could effectively address the problem of illegal immigration in a manner that would not undermine the freedom of American citizens."

70 posted on 01/11/2007 6:47:56 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: chesty_puller

If Paul were smart, not exactly an attribute I've seen him demonstrate of late, he'd worry more about his next Congressional run. I find it hard to believe his district will exactly embrace his cut and run attitude. Of course he can always change parties again and just run as another cut and run Democrat.


71 posted on 01/11/2007 6:48:43 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Rodney King

Compared to the people the media are hyping, he'd have my vote!!


72 posted on 01/11/2007 6:49:00 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Proud2BeRight
He is an M.D. turned legislator from Lake Jackson Texas and he is a squirrel.
73 posted on 01/11/2007 6:53:01 PM PST by Ditter
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To: BigTom85

I totally agree. A whole lot of people more innocent than muslims died in Dresden and Hiroshima. Not one singe American lost thier life in those cities, and the war was WON.


74 posted on 01/11/2007 6:53:07 PM PST by FNG
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To: Ditter
"He is an M.D. turned legislator from Lake Jackson Texas and he is a squirrel."

Sounds like you know the rodent.

75 posted on 01/11/2007 6:55:05 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: chesty_puller

Articles by Ron Paul:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html


My personal favorite:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1554737/posts

Ron Paul - Scandals are a Symptom, Not a Cause
House Web Site ^ | 1-9-2006 | Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)


Posted on 01/09/2006 1:44:33 PM EST by jmc813

The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse. James Madison

The Washington political scandals dominating the news in recent weeks may be disheartening, but they cannot be considered surprising. We live in a time when the U.S. government is the largest and most powerful state in the history of the world. Today's federal government consists of fifteen huge departments, hundreds of agencies, thousands of programs, and millions of employees.

It spends 2.4 trillion dollars in a single year. The possibilities for corruption in such an immense and unaccountable institution are endless.

Americans understandably expect ethical conduct from their elected officials in Washington.

But the whole system is so out of control that it's simply unrealistic to place faith in each and every government official in a position to sell influence. The larger the federal government becomes, the more it controls who wins and who loses in our society.

The temptation for lobbyists to buy votes-- and the temptation for politicians to sell them-- is enormous. Indicting one crop of politicians and bringing in another is only a temporary solution. The only effective way to address corruption is to change the system itself, by radically downsizing the power of the federal government in the first place.

Take away the politicians' power and you take away the very currency of corruption.

Undoubtedly the recent revelations will ignite new calls for campaign finance reform.

However, we must recognize that that campaign finance laws place restrictions only on individuals, not politicians. Politicians will continue to tax and spend, meaning they will continue to punish some productive Americans while rewarding others with federal largesse. The same vested special interests will not go away, and the same influence peddling will happen every day on Capitol Hill.

The reason is very simple: when the federal government redistributes trillions of dollars from some Americans to others, countless special interests inevitably will fight for the money. The rise in corruption in Washington simply mirrors the rise in federal spending. The fundamental problem is not with campaigns or politicians primarily, but rather with popular support for the steady shift from a relatively limited, constitutional federal government to the huge leviathan of today.

We need to get money out of government. Only then will money not be important in politics.

It's time to reconsider exactly what we want the federal government to be in our society. So long as it remains the largest and most powerful institution in the nation, it will remain endlessly susceptible to corruption.


76 posted on 01/11/2007 6:56:00 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/optimism_nov8th.htm)
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To: budwiesest

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

The only reason we are jacking up the # of troops is so that the contractors can continue to cash in. Bush and many of his buddies are heavily invested in these private companies that are over there!

A lot of FReepers dont see this and think Bush is a real conservative. Even thought I dont agree with Ron Paul on everyhting, he is a hell of a lot closer to a real conservative than Bush will ever be.

We have too many rush Limbaugh echoers on here. They think that if Rush says it, it must be true! I do listen to him sometimes.. However i take what he says with a grain of salt. I prefer Mike Savage.

Well I am just venting! Hope you agree!

Tom


77 posted on 01/11/2007 6:57:21 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: traviskicks

I like his speech where he blames Christians for the war on terror.


78 posted on 01/11/2007 6:57:34 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

How much is our Iraq adventure costing us? 4-5 billion a month? It's a lot of cash, just don't know the amount. Whatever it is, it's a lot of 'opportunity' going out the window, too.


79 posted on 01/11/2007 7:01:09 PM PST by budwiesest (I approve of this message.)
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To: traviskicks

Looks like '08 is going to be an interesting year.


80 posted on 01/11/2007 7:01:32 PM PST by monkfan
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