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The case against Lt. Ehren Watada (Shocker: Times sides w/Army)
The Seattle Times ^ | January 9, 2007 | Editorial

Posted on 01/09/2007 1:00:08 PM PST by jazusamo

First Lt. Ehren Watada of the Stryker Brigade, U.S. Army, Fort Lewis, refused to obey orders to deploy to Iraq, becoming the first commissioned officer to do so. He says he opposes the war — not all wars, but this one. So do we, but we cannot support his request to be excused from a posting to Iraq.

Soldiers have to go where they are ordered. That is the rule here and everywhere, and for reasons of military necessity. Watada was a volunteer, and knew that when he signed up. He knew about the Iraq war, as well: He signed up in 2003, the year of the U.S. invasion. He also should have known that once one joins the military, one loses the freedom to speak in ways that could damage soldiers' morale — a restriction that includes political criticism of the military's mission. We have seen this apply to generals, which is why their criticism of the war has come from retirees. The rule also applies to lieutenants.

Watada will soon face a general court-martial in front of a military judge and jury. The judge is now deciding whether to include four charges of "conduct unbecoming an officer," which rise out of Watada's political statements, or to try him only on the charge of refusing to go to Iraq. The possible sentence for refusing to deploy is two years; for the political statements, another four years.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiwar; iraqwar; watada
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To: jazusamo
If only, if only... BCD or DD discharge and fine him for the training, education and other benefits he received. People might think twice about getting on the gravy train if there were consequences to not fulfilling their part of the bargain.
21 posted on 01/09/2007 2:18:50 PM PST by Ruth A. (we might as well fight in the first ditch as the last)
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To: Airborne1986

I served on a few boards.


22 posted on 01/09/2007 2:33:15 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: Ramius

Bring back the Firing Squad or hand this traitor a knife and whisper "Hari-Kari" to this scumbag!


23 posted on 01/09/2007 2:33:24 PM PST by albee (Okay. so he missed aThe best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Not mistaken, just know what would happen.


24 posted on 01/09/2007 2:34:06 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Forget the thing about Bad Conduct Discharges, or Dishonorable Discharge...

ship him out to Iraq, and put him out on patrol in Falujah... lets see if he discharges his weapon against some insurgents.

25 posted on 01/09/2007 2:53:16 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: Frohickey
"ship him out to Iraq, and put him out on patrol in Falujah... lets see if he discharges his weapon against some insurgents."

Sounds good except that none of our great soldiers or Marines should have to be in harm's way with this weasel around -- who could possibly rely upon him for anything?
26 posted on 01/09/2007 2:56:13 PM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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To: jazusamo

George Washington would have put the guy in front of firing squad.


27 posted on 01/09/2007 2:57:13 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jazusamo
A lot of the comments here reflect anger at this Lt -- with good reason.

I'd like to make a different comment. What's up with this liberal newspaper writing such a sensible editorial? Is the left trying to act more responsible now that they're getting back in power?

28 posted on 01/09/2007 3:18:43 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: jazusamo; lilycicero

Bump'n'ping.


29 posted on 01/09/2007 3:27:09 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: 68skylark
What's up with this liberal newspaper writing such a sensible editorial?

Bingo...That was the point of my posting the editorial. This position is not typical for the Seattle Times.

I have posted several other pieces on Watada and by far the vast majority of replies reflect well deserved anger and disdain.

Yesterday I posted an Editorial by the LA Times that blasted the military for calling on reporters to testify in his trial about articles they wrote.

30 posted on 01/09/2007 3:31:26 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo
Ehren Watada should executed for cowardice, desertion and treason. But no one in this country has the backbone to give this modern day Benedict Arnold his well deserved just reward.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

31 posted on 01/09/2007 4:56:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: RedRover; All

I (state your name) do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constituition of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the Officers appointed over me according to the regulations in Uniform Code of Military Justice, SO HELP ME GOD.

What part did EHERN WATADA not understand?


32 posted on 01/09/2007 5:16:53 PM PST by lilycicero (Haditha Marines didn't run away!!!!)
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To: jazusamo

Throw the book at him.


33 posted on 01/09/2007 5:19:46 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.)
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To: jazusamo

The name Ehren means....are you ready...honorable and it's German.
The #32 post is enlisted version.

I'm done...he's not worth anymore of my time.


34 posted on 01/09/2007 5:29:56 PM PST by lilycicero (Haditha Marines didn't run away!!!!)
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To: jazusamo
Hmmmmmm. Maybe a subpoena to reporters isn't such a bad idea after all. They may think before they speak.
35 posted on 01/09/2007 5:31:53 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: lilycicero
The name Ehren means....are you ready...honorable and it's German.

Yikes! Mom and dad sure got that wrong. I believe both his parents are Hawaiian, weird they'd give him that name.

36 posted on 01/09/2007 5:40:02 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: armymarinemom
They may think before they speak.

Exactly!...They don't have a problem promoting the antiwar cause (especially these two) but balk when asked to verify what they wrote.

37 posted on 01/09/2007 5:43:24 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo
A commissioned officer refusing to do his duty in time of war....

... remind me, why did we stop hanging?

38 posted on 01/09/2007 5:45:24 PM PST by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: Ramius

I missed this fact. Could you support this claim, please? I really find this guy disgusting, and this would further deepen the disgust.

I considered myself a conscientious objector at one point when I was in, but would have NEVER deployed or acted in such a manner. My feelings were based on whether I could really kill someone. That cunundrum was solved...I could kill the enemy anytime, any place.


39 posted on 01/09/2007 5:47:41 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support our troops and the Iraqis!)
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To: jnygrl
...but this kid enlisted...

Just a small correction, jnygrl. He did not enlist; he received a commission as an officer in the military services from the President, and as such he has, if you will, a higher calling, one that does not allow him to publicly criticize administration policy.

40 posted on 01/09/2007 6:01:29 PM PST by OldPossum
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