Posted on 01/06/2007 8:31:55 AM PST by joanie-f
Thanks for the ping.
As I have said before it is like the 1930s in Europe.
It is in front of our face but many don't or won't see.
For those open border folks in their safe enclaves who don't have or want a clue, it is coming your way soon if there is amnesty and no Border control
And yes, I am a Bush supporter, not one of the third party wackOs
Bump. Apt beyond all other words...
Agreed.
That is up to each individual to decide. Gaging things from a "Founding Father" perspective... things would already be at the "1 if by land, 2 if by sea" stage.
Furball starts though, I think a lot of people will choose up sides in a hurry.
You guys need to watch what you're posting. This is a public forum.
IIRC, you have first hand experience with the negative effects of illegal immigration. Or am I mixing you up with someone else?
You are correct. I am in San Diego and around 20 miles north of the major border.
As for the walls having ears, who cares. Let them know.
I take you at your word, but others might have a different interpretation.
Will do. Thanks for the kind words.
This was written October 11. Anyone know whether Chertoff has submitted his "plan?"
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.
If any western politician or statesman uttered those powerful, courageous words today, he would be excoriated not only by Jihadists and fatwa-happy muftis, but by the majority in political, media and academic leadership in America.
The modern version of tolerance is the enemy of freedom, courage and truth.
Thanks for your eloquent and informative contributions to this thread.
~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed
--Thomas Borge, Nicaraguan Interior Minister, as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985
Bears (constant) repeating. And anyone who doesn't believe in the 'clairvoyance' of the infamous Sandinista simply hasn't been paying attention, or has been living in a cave for the past twenty-five years.
You have now saved me any such future agony. Much appreciated!
~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed
We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.
Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.
For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.
George Bush, from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000
A President with divided allegiance is a danger to his people.
~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed
Thanks for the kind words, and the ping, ES.
Right now, all the sound and fury over illegal immigration signifies exactly nothing because the damage has been done. The idea of an America with an European-American majority, with well-defined minorities, of the 1960's is over. The fact that we based our national identity upon it is just too damned bad.
Like it or not, we are well on our way to a Latino-American population of well over 100Million. Since 1965. thanks to legal, and of course massive illegal immigration, the fundamental American ethnography has changed.
Changing that fact, whether I or you like it or not, IMHO is never going to happen. There is an inexhaustible supply of people to the south of our hemisphere who want in to our northern part of the hemisphere, and we have demonstrated neither the will nor the ability to stop them. Indeed, were I living there in poverty, I would interpret this country's actual actions as encouragement for me to move.
Of course we need a strong, well-defined and well-guarded border, for many reasons. But if we did that tonight, it still would not change the demographic facts of life.
The challenge is to control our borders, No. 1. Number 2 is to figure out how to handle the ethnic shift that has already occurred and seems never to be undone. The children of illegal aliens are citizens. No one is stepping up to change that law, so it looks as if we are stuck with it. There will never be mass deportation. There will probably be mild sporadically enforced employer sanctions.
Of course Tom Tancredo is right. So what? What can he, or more importantly, we do about it? That's the question, and so far I haven't seen any answers ... even on the far distant horizon. The fact that everyone is talking about it, and 80% claim to be upset by illegal immigration, is interesting ... but is certainly not leading to anything but false "immigration reform," which if you are old enough, you will recall is how this mess got started.
Oprime numero dos para inglés.
In the presence the unprecedented threat to our very existence that a continued open border represents, the small-print legalisms that would be invoked by vocal and powerful opponents to such a plan would have to be unceremoniously squelched (a highly uncharacteristic state of affairs in America 2007, where taking the bull by the horns has become a lost art). Nitpicking political Pharisees, incorrectly screaming about violations of the Posse Comitatus Act, would be rampant.
Yet, as Tom Tancredo has said repeatedly, we have the personnel and the resources to get this done in a relative heartbeat. All it will take is the will. And, to be honest, I dont believe our leadership has it, and I have serious doubts about the citizenry as well.
~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed
Thanks for your insightful input!
~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed
Its hard to comprehend how, during such perilous times, most Americans continue to practice their voluntary apathy and ignorance.
My husband and I know quite a few good people in our area, and are warmed by their friendship. We consider ourselves deeply blessed in that regard.
With that said, I believe that two, possibly three, people I know (friends included) have a clue about what is going on in this sorry world. All of the rest of these good people know only what the powers that be want them to know.
That used to trouble me. It no longer does. I have chosen to enjoy the friendship and acquaintance-ship of those whose paths cross mine on a regular basis, sweep in front of my own door, keep my S&Ws clean and in working order, talk to anyone who is interested in knowing whatever I may know about what lies ahead, and simply hunker down for the disaster-to-come.
One cannot force-feed information to those who arent even aware that they are hungry.
~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed
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