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Troops Flee From Border Outpost(Unarmed National Guard)
The Washington Times ^ | January 6, 2007 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 01/06/2007 6:38:04 AM PST by kellynla

Armed men overran a National Guard observation post along the U.S.-Mexico border in Arizona this week, forcing the soldiers to retreat and prompting an investigation by the U.S. Border Patrol that has focused on the intruders' identity. No shots were exchanged and no one was injured in the incident, which occurred shortly after 11 p.m. on Wednesday. The National Guard troops were members of an entry-identification team, assigned to monitor major illegal-alien and drug-smuggling corridors. After forcing the soldiers to flee, the unidentified men retreated into Mexico. National Guard Sgt. Edward Balaban said the troops did not know how many men were involved in the attack "because obviously it took place in the dark." He said National Guard officials are investigating the incident and will determine shortly whether to change any procedures for troops at the border.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; illegals; immigrantlist; nationalguard; natlguarddisarmed; natlguardunarmed; unarmedpatrol
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To: WatchingInAmazement
ew native-born Americans now raise their children to do work like that:

The comparable demographics here raise their kids to have kids while still in high school, drop out, and sign up for welfare. The boys, deprived of a father at home, join the gangs, and of course function as sperm donors for the girlsHOs

101 posted on 01/06/2007 3:33:54 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: kellynla

Kelly, the Arizona Republic has an article that says the team was armed. It's linked in post #12.

And on the AZ board, FReeper CB1 says the teams along the Colorado River area (where he patrols as a Minuteman) are armed.

I'm not saying you're wrong for reading the article that was posted here and thinking the teams are unarmed - I'm just saying that other sources refute what was posted here.


102 posted on 01/06/2007 4:23:40 PM PST by HiJinx (Ask me about Support for our Troops)
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To: Basheva


Remember Elian Gonzalez?

I do. He was ARRESTED BY THE FEDS, WITH GUNS IN EVIDENCE, then sent back to Cuba - JUST FOR BEING ILLEGAL.
What's happened, since Clinton & Reno??!?
How come Reno can use Feds, but today - nothing is done AT ALL.


103 posted on 01/06/2007 5:41:44 PM PST by 4Liberty ( forced charity = theft)
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To: 4Liberty

Well, the federal government is great at deporting kids - not so hot at catching and deporting smugglers, thugs, criminals, terrorists as well as ordinary illegal border crashers.

All that money spent for the National Guard....let them G*U*A*R*D then - the border would be a great place to start.

Please be assured I am not blaming the actual National Guard troops, just the stupid government fools who run things in general and the left in particular.


104 posted on 01/06/2007 6:37:28 PM PST by Basheva
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To: Stultis
then the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits those military forces (excepting the Coast Guard) from engaging in any sort of policing activities. They can't arrest illegals.

It depends on their orders. If the National Guard are wearing their militia hat, then they can, as they often are, be used for law enforcement duties, and are not subject to the Posse Commitatus Act. That is in the Constitution, Art. I, section 8, which the PC act does not override.

In any event, PC is just a law, dating from the 1870s. If we need to change it, Congress can do that by a simple majority vote.

105 posted on 01/06/2007 7:40:56 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: kellynla

Same thing happened during the weeks after 9/11 they were carrying weapons without ammo. The stupid thing is that this was announced.


106 posted on 01/06/2007 7:47:54 PM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: kellynla

IIRC, the sailors on the Cole had unloaded weapons.


107 posted on 01/06/2007 7:49:25 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: lndrvr1972
Same thing happened during the weeks after 9/11 they were carrying weapons without ammo.

In some states they were carrying unloaded weapons, California for example, but in others, Texas and Oklahoma that I know of first hand, they were carrying loaded weapons in the airports.

108 posted on 01/06/2007 7:53:28 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Stultis

Yeah nice graph, but Border Patrol is not allowed to enforce the laws they have sworn to do.


109 posted on 01/06/2007 7:59:28 PM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: Stultis

Effective policy and tactics are preconditions to funding; unless you're a Liberal in which case the only element that is required is a large sum of tax dollars.


110 posted on 01/06/2007 8:12:37 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: iopscusa

Richard B. Cheney, VP, is also a CFR member. Also,Rumsfield and Gates are members.

I knew some of that about Rice but not all of it. Thanks for the info.


111 posted on 01/06/2007 8:41:02 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: El Gato

You're right. But that's even worse. They had to retreat instead of standing their ground and defending our country, perhaps because they had no ammunition? What if these were armed gangs of Iranians or Chinese instead of Mexicans? When, exactly, do we get to fight back?


112 posted on 01/07/2007 6:30:15 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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