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Power-Sipping Bulbs Get Backing From Wal-Mart
new york times ^
| 1/2/07
| MICHAEL BARBARO
Posted on 01/02/2007 8:57:15 AM PST by mathprof
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To: Neoliberalnot
Lights don't have to be on all the time. Around my neighborhood there are few street lights, many are in people's yards. They are sodium lights that come on at dusk. I have the one in my back yard off because my neighbor has one on the street side. Power company charges about $6 per month for the light. I wouldn't want to live in my neighborhood if there weren't any lights at night.
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posted on
01/02/2007 4:01:03 PM PST
by
visualops
(artlife.us)
To: Politicalmom
Is it flat and round or swirled like the typical energy efficient bulbs? The swirled ones I believe are the ones that are being talked about, but they look awful.
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posted on
01/02/2007 4:28:19 PM PST
by
IllumiNaughtyByNature
(Nodding your head while your wife is talking to you?...think of it as the human screensaver.)
To: Politicalmom
Some of these 120 volt LED christmas lights are going on and off 30 times per second. Much like a computer monitor that is set at a poor refresh rate of 60hz, it does drive your eyes crazy.
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posted on
01/02/2007 4:32:21 PM PST
by
listenhillary
(You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
To: visualops
What if the outdoor lights only came on when something moved outside?
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posted on
01/02/2007 4:35:19 PM PST
by
listenhillary
(You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
To: visualops
"Lights don't have to be on all the time. Around my neighborhood there are few street lights, many are in people's yards. They are sodium lights that come on at dusk. I have the one in my back yard off because my neighbor has one on the street side. Power company charges about $6 per month for the light. I wouldn't want to live in my neighborhood if there weren't any lights at night."
I don't know how humans got along for thousands of years without street lights. Avoid the country, you might be in the dark except for moonlight and the stars.
To: Neoliberalnot
I don't know how humans got along for thousands of years without street lights. Avoid the country, you might be in the dark except for moonlight and the stars.
You're just being a smartass. People got along for thousands of years without a host of other modern inventions, which ones should we get rid of? Times have changed, areas are more populated, there's more stupid people and criminals out and about.
I've been out in the country, and it's quite nice not having street lights when you want to enjoy the view and the night sky. However, when trees and buildings block the natural light, and people lurk about looking for stuff to steal or vandalize, I'd rather they go someplace where they figure they won't be seen, than around my neighborhood.
I do agree that mall and store lots need not be lit long after closing time. It seems to me that LED lights would be very cost effective even at current prices for many businesses, but then again I don't know how much businesses are using LED lights now. Perhaps mostly in signage?
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posted on
01/02/2007 6:35:21 PM PST
by
visualops
(artlife.us)
To: atomicpossum
I have one inside my fridge. If it ever breaks, I recommend cleaning the fridge and tossing the food. They do have mercury.
To: Neoliberalnot
I don't know how humans got along for thousands of years without street lights. They carried swords.
To: jrestrepo
To each, his own, I guess :^)
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posted on
01/02/2007 8:41:23 PM PST
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: K4Harty
No, they now have decorative styles. The curlicue bulb is inside a regular spotlight shape. You can't tell any difference, although it does take a bit to warm up.
To: jrestrepo
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posted on
01/02/2007 8:49:10 PM PST
by
doug from upland
(Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
To: flashbunny
I agree LEDs are the answer in three ways 1. they put off more lumens per watt 2. they put out almost no heat, which reduces HVAC loads 3. they last ten years.
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posted on
01/02/2007 8:51:18 PM PST
by
Boiler Plate
(Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
To: Old Professer; CholeraJoe
I, too have been using them in glass globe fixtures - one is a schoolhouse shade on the kitchen ceiling fan and another on one of those old-fashioned jelly-jar sconces. There's openings at the top for air to move in and out. The bulbs last at least a year in these fixtures.
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posted on
01/02/2007 9:38:21 PM PST
by
hocndoc
(http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
To: CollegeRepublican; flaglady47
Thank you both for the excellent information. Never know what I'm going to learn on FR.
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posted on
01/02/2007 10:02:26 PM PST
by
kitkat
(The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
To: ShadowDancer
Ping to # 18. Are you two related? Reads like something you would post. Hahahaha
To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Way too clean for me to have posted it.
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posted on
01/03/2007 5:04:19 AM PST
by
ShadowDancer
(Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you're standing outside the fire.)
To: Red Badger
use these bulbs in Almost all my lights at home. They don't seem to last as long as they claim...........Amen to that. I use them in most of the lights in my house, and they last on average about three times as long, not the ten times claimed. Further they slowly lose brightness over time. I have a four bulb kitchen fixture, and you can tell the recent replacements from the older bulbs by the fact that the recent ones are noticably brighter. OTO, if you buy them at costco, they are only about three times as expensive as regular bulbs
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posted on
01/03/2007 5:17:22 AM PST
by
from occupied ga
(Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
To: patton
......You can get them in 12V........
hmmmm interesting. I'll check it out.
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posted on
01/03/2007 5:19:48 AM PST
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. .... you'll run the bill up kid!....)
To: Dan Evans
"They carried swords."
I find a .45 superior.
To: NTegraT
I finally started replacing WORKING bulbs, because I saved so much money it was worth it to throw out good bulbs.
Although I didn't throw them out, I kept them for the few places I still wanted to use incandescents, like for some of the lights in the bathroom.
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