Two parties in the pews (Rick Warren, Barack Obama, Sam Brownback and AIDS Redux)

Boston Globe ^ | 31 December 2006 | Alan Wolfe

[shrinkermd]

THE DEC. 1 appearance of US Senator Barack Obama at the World AIDS Day summit signals one possible, and hopeful, future for American politics. The summit, hosted by best-selling evangelical preacher Rick Warren, was itself significant; who would have thought 20 years ago that evangelicals, who then barely acknowledged the existence of AIDS, would now be leaders in calling public attention to its ravages -- particularly in Africa?

[BW2221]

From what I've read on FR, Warren's services are more like a rock concert than a typical Evangelical service. i think it's one of those "feel good" churches without any right or wrong.

Can anyone shed any light?

[L98Fiero]

"That is exactly what happened."

No, not exactly. He won but they did not "see to it".

[Tax-chick]

In this sense it is quite possible for an Evangelical pastor to vote Democrat and have sincere and laudable reasons for doing so.

I agree, although it takes a considerable ... er, mental block ... to ignore live-birth abortion while focussing on other reasons for voting. (This would not be a top priority in voting for, say, a county sheriff or a state representative, but certainly ought to be a major consideration for President and U.S. Senate elections.)

In addition, as I mentioned, at some point sentimentality should yield to reality. Condom handouts do not stop the spread of AIDS. Higher minimum wages do not help the poor. More money for education doesn't improve outcomes. And so on.

[upchuck]

Bill Clinton, Je$$e Jackson, Rick Warren, Al $harpton, peas in a pod. All arrogant, egotistical narcissists.

[Coldwater Creek]

Yes THEY did see to it that Regan won the election, by forming the Moral Majority, working like crazy to register voters, and actually promoting Reagan from the pulpit by preaching about conservative values. We haven't seen anything like it since.

[L98Fiero]

I'm sorry but a group of "evangelicals" didn't hand Reagan one of the biggest landslides in modern presidential election history.

If they DID, and they didn't, that makes the US kind of like Iran where the religous leaders rule by proxy. If they did, and they didn't, that made the US a theocratic state from '84-'88.

Reagan won big in '84 because people liked him FAR better than Mondale. It's just that simple. You can believe it was handed to him by "evangelicals", the Illuminati, or space aliens for all I care. It's just not accurate.

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[taxesareforever]

I thought Bill Clinton and Bill Gates had AIDS under control.

[VxH]

[Anyone else share that impression?]

 

Kinda reminds me of cults back in the 70's.

 

 

Watch out for the pods...