To: AngloSaxonChristian; cva66snipe; Doohickey; judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; ...
I read on another board that one of the sailors was the COB, ETCS(SS) Thomas Higgins, and the other was STS2(SS) Michael Holtz. They were part of the small-boat handling party for the departing Pilot and were washed overboard. They were wearing safety lines. Rest in Peace, Shipmates!
65 posted on
12/30/2006 4:30:26 PM PST by
SmithL
(Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
To: SmithL; Doohickey
That makes a little bit more sense = the pilot HAS to get off the sub, the sub HAS to leave port (sheltered waters) BEFORE the pilot is no longer needed aboard, somebody HAS to help the pilot back to the small boat (to get the pilot back to the tug/pilots craft) and that somebody HAS to be topside regardless of the weather.
(Or you give up entirely and scrub the mission and keep the pilot on board).
Also, it explains WHY the small boat and tug were immediately available to help the stranded/tied up crew once they lost their footing and were dangling by the lifelines.
Need better lifelines. Better cold weather swimmers suits that can take care of you if you are dangling - rather than hang you (upside down?) in the water drowning while tied on.
66 posted on
12/30/2006 4:35:42 PM PST by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: SmithL
I read on another board that one of the sailors was the COB, ETCS(SS) Thomas Higgins, and the other was STS2(SS) Michael Holtz. They were part of the small-boat handling party for the departing Pilot and were washed overboard. They were wearing safety lines. Rest in Peace, Shipmates! With any speed at all and they were in the water unable to free themselves from the rope it would pull them under :>{ Line handling and boat maneuvers in rough seas is a very dangerous job be it a sub or a Utility Boat. By their rank a Second Class and a Senior Chief these guys were experienced sailors. Accidents happen in spite all you do and as careful as you can possibly be they happen on ships.
67 posted on
12/30/2006 5:03:08 PM PST by
cva66snipe
(If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
To: SmithL
The STS2 might have been one of the ship's divers.
69 posted on
12/30/2006 5:24:13 PM PST by
Doohickey
(I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
To: SmithL
May they rest in peace, and may their loved ones find comfort.
70 posted on
12/30/2006 5:53:54 PM PST by
BykrBayb
(Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
To: SmithL
that is tragic one good point of the old S girls is we had the fairwaters, and the mid sail hatches that we used to embark/disembark the pilots with. We hated small boat handling parties that put people on the deck just for theses reasons. The LA class has even less free board aft, then we did on the 585s so that can be a treacherous situation.
hopefully god has welcomed them into his arms
71 posted on
12/30/2006 8:43:25 PM PST by
Bottom_Gun
(Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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