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To: LiberalGunNut; betty boop
But you guys CANNOT accept the ToE no matter what logic, observation or evidence tells you because it conflicts with your pre-established belief in a 6,000 year old collection of books. Science seeks to find answers to questions and to ask more questions. You guys have a pre-established answer and are only looking for validation. No matter what the facts are, they have to be shoehorned into your pre-conceived notion.

First, telling me what I cannot accept based on a little correspondence between us is extremely naive. I don’t reject the ToE unless you consider neo-Darwinism and the ToE one in the same (see Dawkins et al.). For science to exclaim that there is no other reason other than ultimately purely natural causes for; mankind’s existence, morals, intelligence, the beauty we see, love, and our consciousness - is exponentially more naïve then your statement due to how it reduces our very being (especially with science having infinitely less knowledge with the limited correspondence it has had with our universe and the limits science now imposes).

It is one thing to say we are made up of natural matter and materials, but entirely different to say that we are the ultimate result of the aforementioned with both meaning and purpose being an imaginary construct within our ‘material mind’.

One big difference between me and you is that if scientific evidence or observation emerged that totally discounted the ToE, my whole world or belief system would not come crashing down. It would actually be pretty exciting!

This, again, is naïve. I at one time allowed myself to view the world through the eyes of purely and ultimately natural causes. I became a Christian and my belief system ’did’ come crashing down (and hard). But, I must admit, it is very exciting.

Merry Christmas to you and your family LiberalGunNut.

And Betty, Merry Christmas to you and your family. (We will have a house full of young and old this year - pray for us;-) May God’s blessings continue to be with you (I hope that you guys have great success with your book)

697 posted on 12/22/2006 1:27:37 PM PST by Heartlander (Merry Christmas to all!)
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To: Heartlander
Merry Christmas, Heartlander! May God bless you and all of yours in this holy season, and throughout the coming New Year!

Thanks for your splendid post!

702 posted on 12/22/2006 2:53:32 PM PST by betty boop (Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
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