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To: Junior; TaraP; Aetius; Alamo-Girl; AndrewC; APFel; Asphalt; Aussie Dasher; AnalogReigns; ...
"Maybe they've seen the vociferously religious at work and it turned them off..."

No Doubt! - It's the great falling away that was prophesied in God's word; God has hardened their hearts as he said he would, lest they believe and be saved.

Dawkins isn't worth this thread, but maybe you are Junior. Has God hardened your heart?

56 posted on 12/18/2006 9:48:15 AM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor
Has God hardened your heart?

Only to idiots who throw over the benefits of modern science, such as medical advances, simply because it interferes with their religious worldview.

Of course, YMMV.

67 posted on 12/18/2006 10:10:48 AM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: editor-surveyor
No Doubt! - It's the great falling away that was prophesied in God's word; God has hardened their hearts as he said he would, lest they believe and be saved.

Dawkins isn't worth this thread, but maybe you are Junior. Has God hardened your heart?

The line about God hardening hearts (such as Pharaoh’s) is often misread. It is not that God actively reached out and forced someone's heart to harden. It was that, to Pharaoh, the thought of a God greater than him and his gods caused anger that hardened his heart.

Anger at God's greatness is not the only way that hearts are hardened by thoughts of God. Overweening confidence that one is in good with God, correct or not, can lead to the arrogance of assuming that others are damned or otherwise doomed. Such arrogance can cut one off from other people and lead to a hardening of the heart as hard as Pharaoh's.

I suggest that you look to your own heart before condemning another's.

96 posted on 12/18/2006 10:42:47 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Had to de-opus for this one.... Returning to opus mode now.)
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