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To: betty boop

Here are some areas where there doesn't appear to be much conflict between science and Scripture.

In the beginning... The big bang theory.

-The earth was *formless and void*-the proto earth and solar nebula theory

-Let there be light - light takes time to travel and a celestial body needs to be a certain mass to ignite so there would have been a time without light.

-God created man from the dust of the earth - Shaped from clay [origin of life]--http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1515522/posts

- Eccles 1:6 Blowing toward the south, then turning toward the north, the wind continues swirling along; and on its circular courses the wind returns. The circulating system of winds

The universe expanded - Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Evidence for Universe Expansion Found http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1597606/posts

Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. - Gravitation, magnetism, strong and weak molecular forces.

Strange, isn't it, how scientists keep making these *discoveries* only to find the Bible there thousands of years before them telling them things that the people of those days had no way of knowing. How would they have gained the knowledge? It's almost like somebody would have had to tell them or something...


524 posted on 12/20/2006 8:11:42 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; betty boop

it talks about under sea fountains as if they were common knowledge.

job 38 16 Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea or walked in the recesses of the deep?

gen 7:11 the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened.

prov 8:28

when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,


526 posted on 12/20/2006 8:52:29 AM PST by flevit
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To: metmom; Elsie; betty boop

Which interpretation or translation of the Bible is "right"? Those scriptures that supposedly align with science are open to interpretation.

For instance:

"Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. - Gravitation, magnetism, strong and weak molecular forces."

You got gravitation, magnetism and molecular forces from that? HILARIOUS. If you are saying that the Hebrew creation story is closest to science, then excuse me while I burst out laughing. But are you saying that you accept the THE BIG BANG THEORY now? That is wonderful.

Is the old testament literal? AM I supposed to believe that Noah's Ark actually happened? Am I supposed to believe that men lived for 900 years? That Samson killed an army with a jawbone? What about Dinosaurs? Where do they fit in?

If all of these are fables, then that renders the whole book of Genesis unreliable. THe later books (Judges, Kings) are a mixture actual history and myth (like the Trojan War). How do I seperate fact from "parable" (myth)?

Why would God kill a guy for refusing to impregnate his sister-in-law (Onan)? Why did God authorize mass murder and slavery?

Why would a God, who never shows himself, expect you to believe him (whatever that means) under threat of eternal damnation? (The Hebrew God is kind of a jerk)

If I am going to believe on the Hebrew God, which sect should I believe in?

If "being saved" is so important why does god force the entire human race to make a a guess as to his existence? ANd then based on that guess, decides whether you go to heaven or hell?

And then there are similiar myths that appeared at that time like GILGAMESH and other Babylonian myths.

And then there's the Hindu belief:

"Hindus thus do not see much conflict between creation and evolution. An additional reason for this could also be the Hindu concept of cyclic time, such as yugas, or days of Brahma in approximately 4.3 billion year cycles (unlike the concept of linear time in many other religions). In fact, time is represented as Kaala Chakra — the Wheel of Time."

4.3 billion years? That sounds just about right.

All of this fails to put a DENT into the Theory of Evolution and the mountain of evidence supporting it.


532 posted on 12/20/2006 10:04:40 AM PST by LiberalGunNut
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To: metmom; LiberalGunNut; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; Elsie; grey_whiskers; editor-surveyor; ...
Strange, isn't it, how scientists keep making these *discoveries* only to find the Bible there thousands of years before them telling them things that the people of those days had no way of knowing.

Strange indeed! :^)

Here's an observation from Robert Jastrow [God and the Astronomers. New York: W.W. Norton, 1978, p. 116] that puts this matter into perspective:

For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.

Got to get back to work! Thanks for your excellent insights, metmom!
609 posted on 12/21/2006 6:28:01 AM PST by betty boop (Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
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