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To: Albion Wilde
Why would you flag other people to this post? lol Hey, you are the one who asked/rudely commented on my screen name, I was merely answering your query. My explanation of WHEN I joined FR was relevant to why I chose "Born in a Rage".

I am advocating for the needs of children, which were regarded as essential by our Founders -- that children would be raised properly in order to perpetuate a free republic.

That's a bunch of self-righteous malarkey. How do you know...maybe a single woman who has IVF will get married a couple of years later and create your idea of an 'ideal' family. She must have money because the procedure is expensive! Who are you to say she wouldn't raise the child "properly"? There are plenty of kids from two parent homes who have nobody who gives a crap about them, and they weren't even wanted in the first place! Your thesis, generalizations, and statistics forget about one major fact...people are INDIVIDUALS, not cookie-cutter fodder for sociology textbooks. It is INDIVIDUALS who make this a free republic.

251 posted on 12/22/2006 10:38:28 PM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: Born in a Rage; maica; Mrs. Don-o
"I am advocating for the needs of children, which were regarded as essential by our Founders -- that children would be raised properly in order to perpetuate a free republic."
That's a bunch of self-righteous malarkey.

How is it self-righteous for me to provide you with a link to an article about what our Founders planned for children raised in our Republic, in that we are on a conservative republican news forum? It would appear you did not read the article, since you did not comment on the article.

One of the reasons nations fail is when the populace becomes so accustomed to meeting individual wants that individuals develop contempt for the needs of the society as a whole, and even for the dependency needs of their own children -- republics descend into welfare states so that the taxpayer will take on the role of the father, allowing individuals the "freedom" to evade the emotional challenges of forming a solid relationship.

All of the three of us who have consistently been trying to contact you on the level of ideas are aware that people can and do differ from the statistical averages. But in no way should you or anyone else reading this underestimate the difficulty and the sheer physical and mental effort involved in exceeding the norm for the group in which a person places his or her child according to the circumstances of its birth. Childrearing is very hard work in the best of circumstances. And mistakes you make cannot be swept under the rug -- both parent and child will cope with the results of childrearing mistakes for the rest of their lives.

That is why civilizations have traditionally made marriage a rite of passage to adulthood, and have had high expectations of people who want to have sex and create a child. Traditional societies also valued the perspectives of elders; while they may not be more intelligent than the young, they are more experienced. When older parents share their perspectives as we have done, it is with a view to preventing heartache, danger and difficulty, and it is in that spirit that we have posted to this topic, for the benefit of those whose decision to go it alone could lead to a lifetime of heartache with a child who is brought into the world to face the certain absense of half its natural family, identity and resources.

256 posted on 12/23/2006 12:13:05 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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