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To: 2banana

And in addition, for your list:

Lying for Allah is okay, according to the eminent Islamic scholar Imam Ghazali, who wrote:

" When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745).
Imam Ghazali does not say this without knowledge. He is basing his fatwa on the words and examples of the Prophet himself.

In one hadith we read that the prophet calls upon his followers to assassinate Ka’b ibn Ashraf, the chief of a Jewish tribe who was wary of Muhammad and tells them it is okay to tell a lie to deceive him. Bukhari, Volume 5, #369

The fact is that Muslims feel no pang of conscience to lie if that lie is said for Allah’s sake and his religion. If the lie is said for a good cause it is okay.

(...) Muhammad said: "Lying is wrong, *except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for **war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people" (Ahmad, 6.459. H).

(...) *Islam is the only religion that implies in it's scriptures that it's ever permissible to lie.

(...) **any non Muslim land is considered Dar ul Harb a land of war


30 posted on 12/13/2006 8:26:57 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: 3AngelaD
a lie to an enemy, for **war is deception

Right. Which means any treaty with them is as good as toilet paper.

50 posted on 12/13/2006 5:18:10 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: 3AngelaD
(...) *Islam is the only religion that implies in it's scriptures that it's ever permissible to lie.

Not exactly, Abraham was told by God to lie to the egyptians about whether Sarah was his wife or his sister. If he told them she was his wife they could/would have been able to "legally" kill him to take Sarah, but they couldn't "legally" kill a brother to take his sister.

... so I'm told.

53 posted on 12/13/2006 8:26:43 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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