To: NeoCaveman
But I'm not sure it was just the 'R' people were voting against in these races. Remember how Brown played up his anti-conservative as well as anti-Republican credentials. I don't think Strickland's and Brown's victories would have been as sweeping as they were if it were simply an anti-Republican vote. I remember reading on election night posts talking about how poorly Blackwell was doing in normally strong Republican districts. If there wasn't an anti-conservative component to the dynamic to reinforce the anti-Republican trend, I don't think that would have been the case. There were many races where voters were showing both non-conservative and non-Republican tendencies. If we write this clobbering off as simply an anti-party vote, we may be placing ourselves at greater risk than we would otherwise.
The liberals and 'Rats are going to be energized for '08 in a manner that hasn't been seen for awhile. They're going to take this momentum they've built and use it to dump more conservatives and/or Republicans the next time around simply because they'll be reading the message that we're overlooking. I know this is a message we don't want to hear, especially on FR, and the natural, understandable tendency will be to blow it off and try to spin it away (as well as kill the messenger with name-calling and taunts like "Defeatist!", or "Go back to DU!"). But, I'm telling you, if we insist on trying to fool ourselves yet again, we're going to be going down the same path, or worse, in '08.
37 posted on
12/13/2006 9:57:37 AM PST by
chimera
To: chimera
Ahh, a fellow Buckeye.
Sherrod Brown sounded exactly like Pat Buchanan in his commercials.
Ted Strickland advertised heavily on Christian radio, while his opponent ran out of money and faced a backlash from scandal mongering. In addition to the misfortune of following Taft who had (and earned) a 19% approval rating.
No doubt our side is demoralized and their side is enthused. You can see it in who didn't vote in the Bonilla race.
Lets face it, we are the party of big government now and got taken to the woodshed for being the party of big government who also couldn't run it competently.
38 posted on
12/13/2006 10:03:56 AM PST by
NeoCaveman
(Where is my Reagan, Don't say it's John McCain. Where have all the conservatives gone? - P.Shanklin)
To: chimera
You're right. Our problems are very deep, far more than poor performance by Republican officeholders, "forgetting Reaganism," etc. Some people don't want to think about this, just want to mouth cliches.
45 posted on
12/13/2006 12:12:01 PM PST by
California Patriot
("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
To: chimera
Chimera,
What you and the other party bots fail to understand is that it doesn't really matter so much that we win or lose, but that an effective conservative alternative is offered to voters.
If we become what we have fought against for so long in an effort to achieve victory, we are no better than the Democrats.
56 posted on
12/14/2006 7:50:26 AM PST by
Old_Mil
(http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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