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To: gabidale89

You live in a fantasy world in which countries with completely different cultural legacies and histories can automatically become republican in spirit and capitalist.

There is a reason that North Korea is still a totalitarian dictatorship and that South Korea, which started off with 'strong man' dictators, is now a prosperous democratic nation.

It takes time to build those institutions and often the choice is ONLY communism or some other socialist strain vs. right-wing strong man state. You build up capitalism and a strong middle class and you progress towards democracy.

It's like Vietnam. Even a 'stronger' and more stable South Vietnamese government could never have been a TRUE democracy. Because the institutions had not been fully developed. But they WILL NEVER BE DEVELOPED (within a life time) without holding off the Marxists.


329 posted on 12/10/2006 3:38:23 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Skywalk
It takes time to build those institutions and often the choice is ONLY communism or some other socialist strain vs. right-wing strong man state. You build up capitalism and a strong middle class and you progress towards democracy.

I would make the argument that a Constitutional Republic (the Founders did not establish a Democracy in the US, for good reasons), is only stable if the majority of voters are property-owning members of the middle class. If the voting majority are the uneducated poor, then elections turn into contests between competing bands of looters.

South Korea is a reasonably stable republic because it now has a large middle class. Zimbabwe is a starving basket case because the voting majority put looters into office

375 posted on 12/10/2006 6:07:40 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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