It's not scientific to even discuss a creator, because there's no repeatable experiment one could run, or predictions that one could make, based on that theory. So I don't understand why so many creationists insist on doing so in scientific discussions.
If you want to talk about creators, go to Sunday School, or a class on philosophy or comparative religions. Don't expect to see it in a science class.
So, the evolutionists should take that discussion to those venues, too? I hope you agree with that.
But if you do, then you'd better read what they have said. Maybe you'll find you are in a sunday school camouflaged as a scientific classroom. That is my assertion, and I see you concveniently have not dealt with most of anything I said.
No problem, you must not be able to argue scientifically. (Just trying to goad you, but in a friendly way, I assure you). See, I'm smiling - :)