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To: Zakeet

Victory has been defined any number of times, it's just persistently failed to be achieved and so the goalposts need moving over and over again. GWB's latest definition from yesterday is about as humble a victory as you can imagine ("a government which can sustain, govern, and defend itself ... and will be an ally in [the WoT]") so if this latest definition of "victory" can't be achieved that's probably all she wrote.


2 posted on 12/08/2006 5:43:51 AM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AntiGuv

Well at least you and I agree. :)


15 posted on 12/08/2006 9:18:23 PM PST by swheats ( STAY VIGILANT! Our Victory still depends on you.)
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To: AntiGuv
In a world turned upside down,.....Iraq is Victory, and here's why,

America's power is the U.S. Dollar,
Wether it is transfered in legal mode...

Or Illegal mode.

To what degree is world U.S. Dollar activity moving in illegal mode? : )

U.S. Dollars flood the mid east and are the coin of choice for crime syndicates from grotty cave dwellers with RGG's to nation centres.
No Borse exists as yet against the U.S. Dollar,
Saddams small Borse is gone,...
Euro - U.N. oil for extortion fest is over,
Iran postures Borse......time will tell if they have the balls for that.

Concessions to Saudi/Opec/Sunni Arab League keep them in Dollars sphere [For now]

This is Victory....allong with FED/World Bank/IMF activity,
debt does matter....but Dollar activity is Primacy and key to Geostrategic imperatives,
Pipelines,Oil concessions and other futures may have dissapointing returns at present,
if they are not working for the U.S. Dollar,
make sure the assets are not working for anyone else.

The Greatest Generation and those who value higher things would clearly state that priorities are wrong,

But then.....whose really listening anyway.

17 posted on 12/08/2006 9:37:22 PM PST by Parrot_was_devastating
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To: AntiGuv
National Strategy for Victory in Iraq

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.html


Actually that is in the plan from 2003 that was made public in 2005. So rather then a change, it actually reflects the constant policy pf the Bush Administration since the start.

Be nice if people would simply sit down, shut up and actually learning some things about Iraq rather then continually trying to cheery pick data from Iraq to validate their preconceived political opinions

22 posted on 12/09/2006 9:16:25 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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