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Democrats by the numbers (Clinton's stock has risen the most in recent months)
MSNBC ^ | 12/7/06 | Charlie Cook

Posted on 12/07/2006 11:30:34 AM PST by BlackRazor

Democrats by the numbers

Obama gets buzz, but Clinton's stock has risen the most in recent months

ANALYSIS
By Charlie Cook

WASHINGTON - While Democratic circles are buzzing with speculation that Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois might jump into the race for the party's 2008 presidential nomination, little notice is given to the fact that New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's stock has gone up the most in recent months.

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Clinton's support this time was statistically unchanged from three previous surveys over the last year, when she was at 31 or 32 percent. But if you take Gore, who is not likely to run, out of the mix, Clinton goes from 34 percent to 39 percent, with Obama at 21 percent and no other candidate gaining more than 2 points. For Clinton, that is 8 points better than in the June Cook/RT survey among the same set of contenders, and it is 7 points higher than she was at this point last December.

If both Gore and Obama are out of the mix, Clinton's support level goes up to 51 percent, 20 points higher than she was in June and 19 points higher than last December.

~snip~

The full survey, which had an error margin of 2.4 points, showed Clinton gaining ground in a hypothetical general election race against Arizona Sen. John McCain, the likely front-runner for the GOP nomination. The poll showed McCain with 44 percent and Clinton with 42 percent. McCain led Clinton by 12 points in February, 9 points in April and 7 points in June.

In the most recent poll, McCain led Obama, 44 percent to 37 percent. This is the first time this pairing has been tested in the Cook/RT poll.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; hillary; obama

1 posted on 12/07/2006 11:30:38 AM PST by BlackRazor
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To: BlackRazor
Arizona Sen. John McCain, the likely front-runner for the GOP nomination.

The MSM is trying to tell us who to choose to be the GOP pick. Conservatives are smart enough not to choose either Mccain or Rudy.

2 posted on 12/07/2006 11:32:42 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: BlackRazor

Stock is an appropriate term when talking about that cow.


3 posted on 12/07/2006 11:33:05 AM PST by manic4organic
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To: Fierce Allegiance

The MSM is trying to tell us who to choose to be the GOP pick. Conservatives are smart enough not to choose either Mccain or Rudy.
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Of course, good call. That is EXACTLY what they are trying to do. Notice they only promote liberals...regardless of party.


5 posted on 12/07/2006 11:43:44 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Baynative

Private enterprise companies usually try to maintain or lower costs, but Big College seems to need higher and higher costs to continue. Maybe we do need to attack Big College!


6 posted on 12/07/2006 11:45:03 AM PST by gb63
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To: BlackRazor
If both Gore and Obama are out of the mix, Clinton's support level goes up to 51 percent,

So who the heck else is IN that mix? Kerry?

That's why HRC is rising, even the democrats feel like Kerry is a helpless dweeb.

7 posted on 12/07/2006 11:45:44 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Clinton's stock has risen the most in recent months


Is that how she made all that money in the stock market?


8 posted on 12/07/2006 11:47:23 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: gb63

Private enterprise companies usually try to maintain or lower costs, but Big College seems to need higher and higher costs to continue.
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Of course, because they are pandered to by the liberal political establishment as the indoctrination camps and union-havens that they are --- if academia were a conservative bastion, you would not see or hear of colleges and universities in the media ---


9 posted on 12/07/2006 11:49:55 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Izzy Dunne
So who the heck else is IN that mix? Kerry?

If Gore doesn't run, and Obama either takes a pass in '08 or flames out early, I expect John Edwards will probably become the preferred candidate of the anti-Hillary Democrats.

10 posted on 12/07/2006 11:52:14 AM PST by BlackRazor
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To: BlackRazor

I see that MSNBC is now a cheerleader for Hillary.


11 posted on 12/07/2006 11:52:51 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: BlackRazor

It's hard to believe that if you throw out Gore and the Irish guy (O'bama), there are 49% would would vote for Kerry and Edwards combined. Must be a whoooooole lotta "don't know"s.


12 posted on 12/07/2006 11:56:06 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: popdonnelly

And Rupert Murdoch (Fox) will probably be holding her hand at the 2008 swearing-in...


13 posted on 12/07/2006 11:56:08 AM PST by gb63
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To: BlackRazor
What'dya mean I'm not man enough...

14 posted on 12/07/2006 12:01:03 PM PST by gb63
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To: Izzy Dunne
It's hard to believe that if you throw out Gore and the Irish guy (O'bama), there are 49% would would vote for Kerry and Edwards combined. Must be a whoooooole lotta "don't know"s.

There were a bunch of other potential candidates in the poll besides Kerry and Edwards (Bayh, Dodd, Richardson, Vilsack, Clark, etc.), but the article doesn't show the totals with Gore and Obama removed. According to the poll, 36% of Democrats don't think Hillary can win a general election, so that's probably a big reason why so many Democrats are looking for an alternative.

15 posted on 12/07/2006 12:05:14 PM PST by BlackRazor
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To: EagleUSA
Of course it's hard to find a Democrat who isn't a liberal...Grover Cleveland is dead.

Mike Gravel was the first to announce he was running for President and he doesn't even get mentioned.

16 posted on 12/07/2006 12:09:07 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: gb63
Maybe we do need to attack Big College!

Does this apply to the bowl games? Support the University of Florida (48 thousand students) over Ohio State (51 thousand)?

17 posted on 12/07/2006 12:12:40 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Not going to sucker me into seeming to attack those college football guys...they can maim for life!


18 posted on 12/07/2006 12:20:27 PM PST by gb63
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To: BlackRazor

I wonder if it will be a Clinton/Obama ticket then. Or would that be Rodham/Obama ticket?


19 posted on 12/07/2006 12:44:59 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
I wonder if it will be a Clinton/Obama ticket then. Or would that be Rodham/Obama ticket?

Opinion Research did polling in October that showed Hillary performed between 3 and 8 points better in general election matchups as "Hillary Rodham Clinton" than as "Hillary Clinton". Unfortunately, they didn't do any polling for "Hillary Rodham"!

20 posted on 12/07/2006 12:51:55 PM PST by BlackRazor
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