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To: You Dirty Rats; jveritas
I think the real practical impact of this report has been gravely misoverestimated.

Perhaps, though not in the context of Iraq. As I recall the concept of the group, from Baker's perspective, was to produce a "plan" acceptable to, and endorsed by, both parties. The objective not winning or losing, but to remove Iraq as an issue from the 2008 election, by instituting a plan supported by both parties. Ironically it appears the Dems will support the plan, it implies blame for failure on Republicans, but neither GWB nor the 2008 candidates seem to be jumping on board. Potentially it could have the opposite effect, polarizing the positions. Maybe even create a "let's win" constituency. My guess the last thing Baker wanted.

50 posted on 12/07/2006 11:23:21 AM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: SJackson

IMHO Baker et al were all incredibly naive.

It's one thing to have a bipartisan commission to recommend how to change Social Security or even immigration. But to use that lame device to decide how to fight a war? Somehow we can use a committee of has-been "moderates" to fudge a consensus on how to proceed?

Take the 'Rats (PLEASE! - H .Youngman) for instance. What is THEIR Iraq / Middle East plan? THEY DON'T HAVE ONE!! That Party can't even agree among themselves, yet these geriatrics thought they could put together a report that would actually get support from a majority of ALL Americans?

Hell, John F. Kerry can't even reach agreement inside his own elongated skull!

And now Nancy Pelosi claims her Party is "ready to govern". LOL, they can't agree in their own caucus what day of the week it is.

All any of these impotent people can do is through tomatoes at GWB. Developing a real strategeric plan is quite beyond their limited abilities; they know less about the military than Ted Kennedy knows about sobriety.

I hope some of our troops get a copy of this report and burn it, because that's about all it's good for.


58 posted on 12/07/2006 11:56:11 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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