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To: FYREDEUS
"God could still have Created life - it would just mean He created life somewhere else than we thought and a lot longer ago than we thought it."

Yes, from the mortal man's point of view, he probably could have done most anything, but he told us in his most elaborately protected and certified word, that he didn't. I believe him. Those that choose not to believe him continue to pretend that they have hope of finding the origin of life in some other location. Why? What is the advantage in desiring God to be a liar?

38 posted on 12/05/2006 10:18:34 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor
If you literally believe in the Bible, then God is a liar.  He created the universe "4400"-odd years ago but, in the context of the physical sciences, made it all appear billions of years old.
40 posted on 12/05/2006 12:04:02 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (`)
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To: editor-surveyor

Not "anything" - this is the common misconception about Omnipotence or Omniscience - Omni means ALL not ANY; God can do/see ALL things that CAN be done/seen, not "anything" which would by definition include things which can't be done/seen - trapping God in paradox.

In other words God is constrained not by physics but by LOGIC - for example God can't sculpt a round square or make 1+1=3 or see what is 1 mile north of the North Pole etc NOT because such things are physically impossible for God to do/see but because they are logically impossible for anyone/anything to do/see.

God's no silly rabbit; trix is for someone else...God doesnt play tricks anymore than He throws dice...


48 posted on 12/06/2006 2:31:37 AM PST by FYREDEUS (FYREDEUS)
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To: editor-surveyor

"his most elaborately protected and certified word"

Really? What do you mean by "elaborately protected" and certified to who? Moses? Mohammed? Gautama-Buddha? Lao-Tzu? Kung-Fu Tse?

ALL the Faithful of any Faith will believe that THEIR 'prophet' 'sage' or 'saint' got the 'straight dope' direct from The Source and will stand up and 'certify' it til they are blue in the face...and some will 'elaborately protect' that belief it to the point of killing everyone who thinks some other 'prophet' 'sage' or 'saint' got their own straight dope direct from The Source that they will stand up and certify til they are blue in the face, lol-if-it-wasn't-so-tragic

That kind of "protection" thinking is a prescription for endless crusades, pogroms and jihads that prove NOTHING...

As for "certified"...

Nothing is certain but Universal heat-death and taxes - and some modern physicists think there may be ways around final entropic Heat Death lol...mere biological death will probably be cured SOON...one way or another [though perhaps not soon enough for us now living]...as for taxes, well perhaps no one can help with that ;-)...

CERTITUDE is the last refuge of small weak minds that think they need the reassurance of 'certainty' from 'answers' - but the wise of many faiths have always known life isnt really about answers - its about finding better questions.

REAL Faith afterall is believing in what you DON'T know for certain.


49 posted on 12/06/2006 2:54:40 AM PST by FYREDEUS (FYREDEUS)
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