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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; Aetius; Alamo-Girl; AndrewC; Asphalt; Aussie Dasher; Baraonda; BereanBrain; ...

This is an old saw. They have been demolished here on Earth, in their attempts to promote a godless origin of life, so they now choose to move the argument to some imaginary, distant, inscrutable location, so that their theories cannot be demolished by the abundant physical evidence as has happened on earth.


14 posted on 12/04/2006 10:58:35 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 12/04/2006 11:41:18 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: editor-surveyor
The Tagish Lake Meteorite:

Unlike Murchison, the Tagish Lake meteor shows no signs of amino acids, but shows a number of cyclic and ring-aromatic carbon chains. Evidence of carbon buckeyballs, or fullerenes, have a characteristic cage-like connections that resemble the geodesic domes promoted by architect and futurist, Buckminster Fuller.

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Compared to Murchison, Tagish Lake rocks reflect a distinct evolutionary branch for carbon in the early solar system. What carbon-rich material that is soluble, shows a more primitive, less complex category of chemistry.

Oh, well.

20 posted on 12/04/2006 11:59:17 AM PST by AndrewC (Duckpond, LLD, JSD (all honorary))
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To: editor-surveyor
A meteorite that crashed in northwest Canada almost seven years ago might have been able to host the very earliest life forms, according to NASA researchers, which opens the door to the possibility that life could be present elsewhere in the universe.

Sure there's life present elsewhere in the universe, but if you call them *angels* and *demons* you'll get laughed off the forum. But it's OK to call them *extraterrestrials* and suggest that they are more advanced and have more highly evolved bodies and perhaps telepathy.....hmmmm.... Just don't call them *angels* and *demons*.

21 posted on 12/04/2006 2:02:13 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Qui est "They"?


30 posted on 12/04/2006 11:11:37 PM PST by FYREDEUS (FYREDEUS)
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Terra has been Firma since less than 5 Billion Years Ago. There were G stars exactly like Earth's sun Sol 10BYA in a Universe that is approx. 13.7 Billion years old - meaning stars and planetary systems could have formed less than 4 Billion years after the Creation of the Universe and have advanced to the exact same stage of development of both life and technological civilization as intellignet life in our solar system has attained before our solar system even formed...plenty of time for spacefaring 'Johnny Appleseeds' to have sown Life widely in the last 5 billion years.

Heck even STL Bussard rams or slowboats at speeds our <Type 1 civilization can attain with our PUNY 'rocket science' NOW could spread Life THROUGHOUT our entire Galaxy in just a few million years; early life elsewhere could have done the same throughout theirs before our sun burned hot in space and then started looking for new horizons [ours]...even intergalactic travel @ slowboat speeds isnt inconceivable when you have 5 BILLION YEARS to do it in.

Unless you intend to suggest that in a sphere of space 5 BILLION LIGHT YEARS in diameter [do you actually understand how BIG that is - how many stars fill that volume of our Universe?] Life and Intelligence and Techological Civilization never arose anywhere but here then "distant, inscrutable" civilizations OUT THERE not only COULD have but SHOULD have spread Life from wherever they were to not only HERE but EVERYWHERE by now - That is Fermis Big Question aka the Fermi Paradox ["Where ARE they?"].

And if they DID that does NOT in any way "promote a godless origin of life" since it merely moves the LOCATION and TIMEFRAME for the Origin of Life from somwhere on Earth sometime since 4.5 Bya out to somewhere in a 5 billion lightyear diameter sphere 10Bya.

God could still have Created life - it would just mean He created life somewhere else than we thought and a lot longer ago than we thought it.


31 posted on 12/04/2006 11:43:24 PM PST by FYREDEUS (FYREDEUS)
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This has absolutely nothing to do, at all, with a "Godless origin of life."
37 posted on 12/05/2006 8:46:22 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (`)
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To: editor-surveyor
Yes, E-S, it is amazingly Monty-Python-esque the reaches to which the secularist evoluntion-only faith will go to hold onto its cherished fantasy!

Like the dead-parrot skit, really.

63 posted on 12/09/2006 7:37:20 PM PST by bvw
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