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Congress Open to Passing Bill on Immigration (Citizenship for 20 million illegals!)
The Washington Times ^ | December 4, 2006 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 12/04/2006 6:58:29 AM PST by kellynla

Congress will approve an immigration bill that will grant citizenship rights to most of the 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the U.S. after Democrats take control next month, predict both sides on Capitol Hill. While Republicans have been largely splintered on the issue of immigration reform, Democrats have been fairly unified behind the principle that the illegals currently in the country should get citizenship rights without having to first leave the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; bushbash; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa
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To: Reagan Man; taxed2death; RodgerD; dirtboy
That is liberalism and social engineering at its best. Conservatism it is NOT.

Great thread! You conservatives have expressed your ideas and yourselves well. I expressly noticed your "cool" in no name calling. Just the facts.

OUCH!

The pain of illegal gain is on its way. We will have to increase the billion in hospital care costs for illegals in the Medicare Bill. Our insurance rates, premiums and deductables will increase again and again until we succumb to socialized medicine. You can blame it on the Dems or Reps but the real culprit illegal immigration.

441 posted on 12/04/2006 2:51:30 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: kabar

Now, they will be legally able to vote.


442 posted on 12/04/2006 2:51:36 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

6000+ illegals cross over a week.

You're a rube.


443 posted on 12/04/2006 2:51:51 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

Substantiate that number.

I want to know how you come up with the number of people no one saw cross the border.


444 posted on 12/04/2006 2:53:17 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"Twenty million illegal aliens are on the brink of getting citizenship from a Democrat-controlled Senate...this was not the case last year, or any year prior to this year.

That action by the Democrats will have the same effect that signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 had on elections; the Democrats have secured yet another large minority group.

It appears that the wound on your back is self-inflicted."

____________________________________________________________

Hey Rube, who's gonna sign it into law?


You couldn't buy a clue with 100 million pesos.


445 posted on 12/04/2006 2:53:37 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: kabar
"This goes beyond partisan politics and political advantage."

Oh yeah?

In the 12 years that the GOP held both Houses of Congress, this did not happen.

It will happen within a year of the DNC taking control.

446 posted on 12/04/2006 2:56:53 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: taxed2death

The people of the United States elect Congress to write laws.

If the law was written, it was because the people elected its writers.

You should have worked harder at keeping the people who would push this law through out of Congress.


447 posted on 12/04/2006 2:58:43 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Baynative

Bingo.


448 posted on 12/04/2006 3:01:42 PM PST by hershey
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Chew on this Taco Louie.




"The key findings of the Committee are listed below.

It is a frightening and yes, eye opening account of the failure of our government to protect us. Why you ask? Every border agent knows that for all of the persons captured coming across our border, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands slip across (according to the report quoting interviewed border patrol estimates in August of 2006 -- they do not capture between 70 and 90 percent of all those crossing the border illegally). We too can do the math. "

If you are capable of math...


http://www.milnet.com/So-Border-Security.html


449 posted on 12/04/2006 3:04:20 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
Buy yourslef a copy of the Constitution of the United States...Article I, Section 7:

"The Congress shall have power to ~~snip~~ establish a uniform rule of naturalization."

Further reading for you:

"Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law."

It can't be stopped.

450 posted on 12/04/2006 3:04:40 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"The people of the United States elect Congress to write laws.
If the law was written, it was because the people elected its writers.
You should have worked harder at keeping the people who would push this law through out of Congress."

Another one in denial. GWB has been pushing his "it's not amnesty" Amnesty for 6 years now.


451 posted on 12/04/2006 3:05:43 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"It will happen within a year of the DNC taking control."

Who's gonna sign it L?


452 posted on 12/04/2006 3:07:02 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Tzimisce
If the left was against this it would be "racist oppression".

The left could have opposed illegal immigration by taking a traditional stance in defense of the American worker. In the end, however, multi-cultural rhetoric and the possibilty of more Dem voters won the day.

453 posted on 12/04/2006 3:07:17 PM PST by Fraulein
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To: Luis Gonzalez
That "idea" link went nowhere. Just like your entire post. You're rationale and logic is convoluted.

>>>>>The fact that you spoke up against the GOP ...

Damn straight I spoke up against the GOP. I think for myself. As do the vast majority of conservative FReepers. Conservatives are opposed to big government Republicanism. That includes liberal immigration reform.

>>>>>Your actions, and your self-righteous behavior helped propel this loss.

LOL The power belonged to Bush, Hastert, Frist and the other so-called GOP leadership. And the blame for the Nov7th loss also belongs to Bush, Hastert, Frist and the other so-called, GOP leadership.

>>>>>Hint...the more that we were attcked by Democrats, the more you should have defended the GOP.

LOL BULLoney! If the GOP is right, I will defend her. If the GOP is wrong, I will criticize her. If the GOP ignores conservatism, ALL conservatives will speak out. Todays Republican Party has lost its way, and until it returns to advancing a more conservative agenda, it will lose. Stop whining.

454 posted on 12/04/2006 3:07:30 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Those are "public charges" whom family members promised to support when they asked the government for green cards.

Immigrants who need welfare/food stamps are failed immigrants. They should be sent home. We don't need to import more poverty.

455 posted on 12/04/2006 3:07:51 PM PST by RodgerD (Don't Abolish America. Defeat the Bush-Pelosi Mexico-Merger Scheme)
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To: kellynla

Welcome to one-party rule for the rest of your lives.


456 posted on 12/04/2006 3:09:06 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: taxed2death
"Every border agent knows that for all of the persons captured coming across our border, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands slip across."

Do the math, use the 10,000 to 1 figure.

We have record of one million four hundred thousand being stopped at the border last year alone, that means that 14 billion Mexicans slipped in!!

Taco Louie?

You're pathetic.

457 posted on 12/04/2006 3:10:40 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

...coming from a rube?


LOL

:)


458 posted on 12/04/2006 3:11:52 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: RodgerD
"Immigrants who need welfare/food stamps are failed immigrants."

Where do you plan to send the native born failures?

459 posted on 12/04/2006 3:13:09 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: taxed2death
14 BILLION MEXICANS ENTERED THE US ILLEGALLY LAST YEAR!!!!!!!
460 posted on 12/04/2006 3:14:19 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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