Posted on 12/02/2006 12:10:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge
"A poll carried out by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), an advocacy group, found that for one in three Americans, the word Islam triggers negative connotations such as "war," "hatred" and "terrorist." The war in Iraq has contributed to such perceptions."
No, its not the war in Iraq, its 9/11, USS Cole and countless other terrorist attacks.
ConservativegreatGrandma wrote: "What do you want to do about them (Muslims)?"
It depends. For Muslim citizens who are not guilty of actual crimes such as supporting terrorists--not a thing. For citizens who are guilty of crimes--incarceration. For non-citizen Muslims who are here illegally, incarceration and deportation. For non-citizen Muslims who are here legally, profiling and efficient human intelligence to identify and remove violent ones. Bottom line: if they aren't guilty of crimes, I don't have a problem with Muslims, and I'm certainly not ready to shred the Constitution to punish an entire religion for the actions of some of their members.
If you've got a bunch of rattlesnakes slithering around your backyard, are you going to say "Most of them won't bite me, so I'll just let them be" or are you going to say "You're all out of here or you're all dead."?
Nathan Zachary wrote: "Have you ever even glanced at what their cult teaches?
In fact, I have. However, some FReepers here want to round up and incarcerate an entire group of people based solely on their religious affiliation. That is illegal, immoral, and impractical (as I've stated before). Frankly, that's about as ridiculous as liberals who are against any form of profiling.
We are already doing a lot of the right things in the WOT. You can be sure our intelligence services are trying to identify and eliminate violent Muslim groups--if the NYT doesn't blow the whole thing.
DuncanWaring wrote: "If you've got a bunch of rattlesnakes slithering around your backyard, are you going to say "Most of them won't bite me, so I'll just let them be" or are you going to say "You're all out of here or you're all dead."?"
That's not a valid analogy. All Muslims aren't "rattlesnakes."
Put me on the list of those who've missed it, too.
The only Muslim outrage I've seen is the outrage that there are still infidels (such as myself) on the face of the planet.
Well ignorance is correct.
100 percent of us shouldn't want them next door, next street over or next state over. We should all want all of them gone to their own rockpile in the middle east.
It is dumb that most don't perceive what this "religion' is
Require all those who want to saw of the heads of Infidels to wear a special armband?
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.
Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.
DuncanWaring wrote: "How do you distinguish those who want to saw your head off from those who don't?"
The same way we identify other criminals from law-abiding citizens--good police work. If one of them commits a crime or even conspires to commit a crime, they can be imprisoned.
To think we could even identify every Muslim in this country, much less incarcerate or deport all of them, is ridiculous. What we do have the capability to do is the necessary HUMINT to identify and destroy violent Muslim groups.
There is something about this religion which makes for violence and strife with everybody who does not belong as well as those who do.
That's not "ignorance". That's an observation of 14 centuries. It's nothing new.
[...A poll carried out by the Council on American-Islamic
Relations (CAIR), an advocacy group, found that for one in
three Americans, the word Islam triggers negative connotations
such as "war," "hatred" and "terrorist." THE WAR IN IRAQ
has contributed to such perceptions...]
The War in Iraq my foot. My negative view of Islam comes
from the bombing of the World Trade Centers. CAIR is a
piece of work. Blech!
"That is illegal, immoral, and impractical (as I've stated before)."
No, it isn't. It's how a war is fought.
There's always at least ONE civilizational-suicide-for-political-correctness in Islam threads....
I, for one, want us to WIN this war. You fail to understand who the enemy is.
Duh! More brilliant headlines:
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NEW STUDY SAYS IT'S COLD IN WINTER
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"No battle is worth fighting except the last one."
Enoch Powell
The July 4 after 9/11, we were leaving a friend's house in a quiet neighborhood to watch fireworks. They have a large yard in South Orange, NJ. A bunch of Muslim men walked onto the lawn without asking, and kneeled down to say their prayers.
We were a little freaked out. We let them alone, but in retrospect I think, "Why didn't they at least have the courtesy to send one to the door and politely ask for permission to enter the property to pray? Why makes things worse by just traipsing onto someone's lawn?"
I also think they were so clueless as to politeness and American culture, or just arrogant. Who knows what was going on in their heads.
I think one way to reduce the threat of fascist Muslims, is to do what Giuliani did to clean up NYC -- use strict "spitting on the sidewalk" laws. Set a very high standard for behavior, encode it into law, and ruthlessly fine and arrest Muslims who don't comply. Then check their immigration status and use every possible means to get them out of the country.
I don't like having to take this attitude, but I see few options.
The education of our current leadership is wanting.
Here's another Powell quote:
"I will not surrender responsibility for my life and my actions."
For every story I hear about "Police disrupt criminal plan to ..." I hear a hundred about "Police are investigating < fill-in-the-blank crime> committed yesterday...".
If one of them commits a crime or even conspires to commit a crime, they can be imprisoned.
That certainly worked well with Mohammad Atta and his Merrie Band, didn't it?
Perhaps you're planning on hiring John Anderton to do this "good police work". You might want to sign up the Tooth Fairy, too.
And afterwards, we can all have milk and cookies.
Al Reuters rides again.
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