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Report Shows Muslims Near Bottom of Social Ladder(In India..Surprise)
NYT Asia Pacific ^ | November 29, 2006 | SOMINI SENGUPTA

Posted on 11/28/2006 5:45:34 PM PST by samsonite

NEW DELHI, Nov. 24 — Even those who caution against “illusions of grandeur and power,” as the head of India’s governing coalition, Sonia Gandhi, did last week, cannot hide their sense of pride at the idea of India as a nation that extends the concessions of secular democracy to its many castes, creeds and faiths.

Yet that notion has come under some strain in recent days, with an official panel having concluded that Muslims, India’s largest religious minority, are “lagging behind” on most things that matter.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s office, which is reviewing the report, summarized the panel’s biting conclusion this way: “The community is relatively poor, more illiterate, has lower access to education, lower representation in public- and private-sector jobs and lower availability of bank credit for self-employment. In urban areas, the community mostly lives in slums characterized by poor municipal infrastructure.”

Muslims make up roughly 13 percent of India’s population of 1.1 billion, and their numbers are nearly equal to the entire population of Pakistan, which was carved out of British India nearly 60 years ago as the homeland of the subcontinent’s Muslims. Soul-searching about Muslim rights and well-being in this country, which has witnessed periodic outbreaks of religious violence, has been a recurrent leitmotif ever since.

The latest findings have prompted fresh debate. In an editorial in The Indian Express, an English-language daily, Pratap Bhanu Mehta, the president of the Delhi-based Center for Policy Research, suggested that the government’s panel had revealed “the hollowness of our concept of republican citizenship.”

“What is at stake,” Mr. Mehta said, “is not just uplifting this or that group, but the very idea of India itself: whether it has the capacity for transcending the cant, indifference and identity traps that have brought us to this pass.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; india; muslims

1 posted on 11/28/2006 5:45:36 PM PST by samsonite
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To: samsonite
The sweetheart of an Indian exile I just did a favor for told me of the horror she faced before escaping the 'muslims'. I believe her. They can all rot in hell.
2 posted on 11/28/2006 5:50:03 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: samsonite

I always wanted to be a Brahma.


3 posted on 11/28/2006 5:50:45 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: samsonite

Except in the USA (where Muslim immigrants tend to be far above the Muslim norm in educational and professional aspiration and achievement), the Satanic Death Cult "lags behind" everywhere because it cultivates mindless fatalism, lethargy, backwardness, and ignorance in its devotees.


4 posted on 11/28/2006 5:52:56 PM PST by Enchante (America-haters and Terrorists Around the World Embrace Chamberlain Democrats)
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To: samsonite

I've always considered Muslims to be at the bottom of the evolutionary, not social, ladder. All they're good for is death, disease, poverty, and misery.


5 posted on 11/28/2006 5:53:26 PM PST by kromike
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To: samsonite

Putting a religion as fanatical as extremist Islam ahead of yourself leads to destruction. Not just mentally, but economically and socially. But that is to be expected. What matters is the life after death. Who cares what happens in this world.


6 posted on 11/28/2006 5:55:13 PM PST by sagar
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To: samsonite

Islamic culture does not value work. It values fighting and pillage. Where they are prevented from pillaging, they are poor


7 posted on 11/28/2006 5:57:21 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: samsonite

Well if this isn't news to blow yourself up for, I don't know what is.


8 posted on 11/28/2006 5:59:12 PM PST by zarf
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To: samsonite
If they put a fraction of the energy into education, work, and entreprenorial activities as the put into protesting, burning, beheading, and jihadding, they would actually be a forward-moving group of people.

In their current mindset, they are cockroaches whose only goal in life appears to be wiping out those not like them.

i.e. LOSERS.

9 posted on 11/28/2006 6:03:36 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: samsonite

Being at the bottom in India is pretty low. Of course, it's not too surprising that they get beat out by cows, but I think in India, they may be below the hogs, as well.


10 posted on 11/28/2006 6:13:23 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: samsonite
Report Shows Muslims Near Bottom of Social Ladder(In India..Surprise)

Oh cry me a river. /sarc

11 posted on 11/28/2006 6:17:50 PM PST by guestfox01 ("The only two things you can truly depend upon are gravity and greed." - Jack Palance)
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To: Brilliant

LOL.

I disagree. I don't think Muslims get beat by cows is a bad thing in India. Cows' status is far above anybody.

Now, getting beat by hogs is pretty bad.


12 posted on 11/28/2006 6:21:26 PM PST by sagar
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To: samsonite

It's hard to want to be social with someone that wants to chop your head off and post a video of it on the internet.


13 posted on 11/28/2006 6:23:40 PM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: samsonite

From what I've heard on Christian talk radio, if there's an oppressed class
in India...it's the "untouchables" (dalits).
Some are converting to Christianity and have caught some flak for that.

But maybe things are looking up for them.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/100000.dalit.christians.to.attend.world.religious.freedom.day.rally.in.india/7943.htm


14 posted on 11/28/2006 6:29:33 PM PST by VOA
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To: Lizavetta

I've said before that if the palestinians had put the effort that they have expended digging smuggling tunnels into productive work they would have struck oil by now (saudi arabia's, but oil nonetheless).


15 posted on 11/28/2006 6:33:50 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: samsonite

Wow.


16 posted on 11/28/2006 7:50:02 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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