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New U.S. dollar coins hide 'In God We Trust'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Nov. 27, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 11/27/2006 11:02:39 AM PST by News Hunter

"In God We Trust," the official national motto since 1956 and a familiar sight on U.S. coins and currency, will be hard to find on the new presidential dollar coins scheduled for release to the public Feb. 15, 2007.

The new gold-colored dollar pieces, featuring images of U.S. presidents, will move the inscription from the face of the coin to the thin edge, along with the year and the previous national motto, "E Pluribus Unum," Latin for "Out of Many, One."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; dollar; god; ibleeive; ingodwetrust; worldnetdaily
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To: leadpenny

I bleeive I can fly
I berleive I can touch the sky
I think about it every night and day
Spread my wings and fly away


141 posted on 11/27/2006 1:50:54 PM PST by Constitution Day ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." — Aldous Huxley)
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To: trumandogz
I wonder what the HRC Coin will say?

HRC - "Don't trust this coin as far as you can throw it!"

142 posted on 11/27/2006 1:51:30 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Constitution Day

Me too, but I hate it when i run out of beer and can't find my car.


143 posted on 11/27/2006 1:54:20 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: NeoCaveman

New keyword.


144 posted on 11/27/2006 1:55:22 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
And how does the motto "In God We Trust" establish a certain religion over another? It merely acknowledges from where our founding principles are derived. Statutes establishing the national motto and allowing for its use on our money have a secular purpose as well by recognizing the historical importance of religion in our society, fostering patriotism and engendering a confidence in the future. Also, the use of the motto has been found to be constitutional time and again.
145 posted on 11/27/2006 1:58:24 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate
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To: SoldierDad

Ah, so you're a moral relativist.

Morals are objective, they're the same no matter where you are or what culture you're in.


146 posted on 11/27/2006 1:58:48 PM PST by Raymann
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To: Raymann

Again my suggestion of education is applied.


147 posted on 11/27/2006 2:00:30 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier back in the "SandBox")
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To: Dick Bachert

I can throw a lot more at you but to be short (everyone is shooting at me on this thread) I'll just say look up natural rights.


148 posted on 11/27/2006 2:01:38 PM PST by Raymann
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Me too, but I hate it when i run out of beer and can't find my car.

Obviously you need one of these:


Have a most excellent evening!

149 posted on 11/27/2006 2:01:56 PM PST by Constitution Day ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." — Aldous Huxley)
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To: SoldierDad

Ask half the christians on this board and they'll agree with me, not on the source of morals but the fact that they are objective.


150 posted on 11/27/2006 2:03:39 PM PST by Raymann
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To: Constitution Day

I had one, but left it in the car! DOH!


151 posted on 11/27/2006 2:04:50 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: riverdawg
Thank you for your polite reply.

John F. Kennedy's United States Notes would have been as you described, an asset to the owner but not a liability to anyone else. Those notes were taken from circulation following his death because of their debt free nature. They were spent, not lent, into circulation. Emitted by the US government they yielded no profits for the central bank, which is in the business of extending credit to the nation.

The economy could run just as well with United States Notes. There would be little inflation if any and no national debt.

The United States Notes were replaced by Federal Reserve Notes which are lent, not spent, into circulation, and do provide profits for the private central bank. The US government borrows more than it takes in and spends it all (what it borrows and takes in) on all its expenditures.

What it borrows stays on the books as interest bearing debt obligations of the taxpayers but once the money gets out in the economy, the rest of us use it as currency for business purposes. To us it behaves much like any other money. We see it as an asset when it is ours and that is just as well.

Yet, the U.S. Government and the American taxpayers are on the hook for borrowed money that just gets rolled over year after year. It is comparable to those interest-only loans that some homedebtors have gotten recently. What does that money look like? Federal Reserve Notes currency and the bits in the banks' computers that keep track of deposits. It is debt and to increase it increases only indebtedness.

I don't agree that there is any such thing as "outside money" unless the money has been sent to Mexico by an illegal to help mom and his 10 siblings. This is one of the ways inflation is exported. However, $20 in my pocket or parked at the bank, hardly any difference to immediate circumstances.

Does arbitrarily increasing currency really raise national wealth? If it did we could make ourselves rich by printing money and giving it to everyone. No, prices would go up to account for the cheapening of money and though all prices and salaries would nominally be more, we wouldn't feel any richer. In 1999 my house went for 189,000. Today, $400,000. Same house. No more space, no more bedrooms than before, no more bathrooms than before. It takes more credits to buy it because the credits are all worth a fraction of what they were in 1999.

The best way to increase national real wealth is not to play with numbers, or manipulate currencies, but to stop punishing risk taking entrepreneurs with high taxes and unreasonable regulations.

Respectfully.

152 posted on 11/27/2006 2:06:49 PM PST by Jason_b
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To: Fierce Allegiance; Constitution Day

Aw com'on peopel!


153 posted on 11/27/2006 2:06:59 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Stone Mountain
Why is it important to mention God on our money?

Trust. If you live in a country that fears God and aspires to be good, then you can trust that the government will try to do the right thing. It is the Judeo-Christian belief in a single diety that gave us this country. I think that there are very few arguments that can be sustained that this is not the case. We are a country with a covernment that is not above God. The ideal is that being below God, and respectful of God, we would not as a nation do anything to offend God, including letting the value of currency be lost. Have you ever heard the phrase, "full faith and credit of the United States Government?" Where are you going to get the faith in the US Government if you don't have faith in God, and a common God at that?

154 posted on 11/27/2006 2:11:17 PM PST by webheart
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Indeed, rights don't come from anything. A right is something I can exercise as long as it does not infringe upon another's rights. There is nothing "given" to me to allow me to do this. I do not need God's or the state's permission. Privileges can be bestowed, but rights simply are.


155 posted on 11/27/2006 2:13:40 PM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: Raymann

When did I ever make any claim to the contrary. You made an assumption, and everyone should know what happens when you do that. And, changing the subject from virtures you make up to morals decided upon by societal or cultural convention doesn't change my earlier comments.


156 posted on 11/27/2006 2:14:50 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier back in the "SandBox")
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To: brownsfan; Raymann
James Madison has some interesting things to say about the tyranny of the majority in Federalist Papers 10 and 51.
157 posted on 11/27/2006 2:28:16 PM PST by non-anonymous
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To: downtownconservative
It actually is a more difficult imprinting application and will never wear off as it is indented deeply into the edge.

Thank you for this info. I think it sounds kind of cool and look forward to seeing the new look.

158 posted on 11/27/2006 3:17:47 PM PST by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: downtownconservative

Hardly kneejerk and they very much ARE hiding IGWT. This is just the next insidious step to removing it all together!Being a Christian numismatist and actually knowing something about coins, just because it's "harder to make" certainly doesn't mean that it is or isn't being hidden from view! And it won't necessarily be there forvever either. The govt. has made incuse inscriptions on coins before, both on the edges and on the obverse, and wear and tear can very much remove them! And while it may be easy for you to read it, most people will hardly even notice the edge of a coin. PARTICULARLY if it's incused! Gosh, they can't even distinguish between dollars and quarters as it is with the Susie B's and the new Sacs!!!

Furtheromore, when a coin is displayed in coin flips or in books, the edge isn't even seen at all! THAT qualifies as hiding it in most people's books.

Why is it that whenever a Christian stands up for his or her rights, it's almost always considered a "kneejerk reaction" anyway!?


159 posted on 11/27/2006 3:44:37 PM PST by tpanther
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To: News Hunter

This is a non-story story.


160 posted on 11/27/2006 3:47:51 PM PST by lmr (The answers to life don't involve complex solutions.)
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