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To: BlackElk

Uuum, Grisham? Whatever Pinter's politics, his 60s dramas are hugely important and influential. So is Albee if you want to look at the American side of Theater of the Absurd. The Beats were very pro-American btw. Kerouac and Co. considered themselves heirs to Whitman.


775 posted on 12/01/2006 11:36:39 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
As to John Grisham who sells a lot more novels than I or most likely you and sells one of each to me: De gustibus, non disputandem est. I like him a lot more than I should like James Baldwin or other leftist trash.

I used Allen Ginsberg as an example of Beats. I trust you are not going to call him pro-American."

I wasted time and money on a Pinter Play or two (one of them with actors popping out of garbage cans: Waiting for Godot???). That will do for a lifetime. I have but one life to live and I am determined not to waste it watching Theater of the Absurd now that I have grown up.

As to the "arts community" in general, Pinter's "dramas" were "hugely important and influential" to whom???? The usual crowd of arts arbiters and college professors and pseudo-intellects whose politics may be found well to the left of Mao-Tse Tung???? I am soooo impressed!!!! Oh, and I forgot the English Profs who make a living telling you what authors MEANT to say when they said the precise opposite. I also do not listen to NPR or watch "public" television programming except on an extremely selective basis. I can think for myself and I do.

Kerouac stood out as an exception but not enough of one to cleanse the reputation of the beats.

Also, Grisham entertains which is more than Pinter could say and a good explanation ofd why he was so much more successful without his works being required by the leftist professoriate.

Finally to cement my reputation as a hopeless philistine, wasn't Whitman a lavender queen????

779 posted on 12/01/2006 11:55:16 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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