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Home Schools Run By Well-Meaning Amateurs
NEA ^ | By Dave Arnold

Posted on 11/27/2006 7:04:44 AM PST by meandog

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To: meandog
Homeschooling parents are the most arrogant lots you'll ever find

In logic we are taught to watch out for statements that use "all" "none" "most" "never" and so on.

81 posted on 11/27/2006 7:37:33 AM PST by cornelis
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To: meandog

I don't recall any one of my teachers ever knowing very much about the subject they "taught", at all.


82 posted on 11/27/2006 7:37:42 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: WesternPacific
I am also a public school teacher who supports and encourages homeschooling, but to think of some of the illiterate and or emotionally disturbed aka demo liberal extremist, parents trying to homeschool is terrifying to me. I feel for the child home-schooled by their wacko parents, but then again these are the same parents who have made public schools the way they are today.

And when you're a teacher, prepare to be FReeper flamed...teachers here are treated worse than Democrats!

83 posted on 11/27/2006 7:38:07 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: meandog

Is that why the trained professional educators resist teacher testing and raises based on performance? Is that why the trained professionals don't want to do away with tenure? Is that why the teacher's unions force new teachers to become members before they can accept a job? Is that why homeschoolers do better in subjects like math, literacy, and science than public school students? Is that why the per-student spending for homeschoolers is far less than public school? Is that why the NEA resists school choice and vouchers? Is that why people with no kids have to pay taxes to support public schools? Is that why homeschooling parents still have to pay taxes to support schools they do not utilize? Huh? Is that why?


84 posted on 11/27/2006 7:38:10 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: meandog
Home Schools Run By Well-Meaning Amateurs

As opposed by Malicious-Meaning Collectivist Mercenaries in government schools.

Pound sand NEA union thug!

85 posted on 11/27/2006 7:38:40 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: meandog

(Dave Arnold, a member of the Illinois Education Association, is head custodian at Brownstown Elementary School in Southern Illinois.)

The janitor wrote this? Well, it does belong in the trash.


86 posted on 11/27/2006 7:41:08 AM PST by maggief
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To: meandog

Considering the source, the NEA, this is no surprise.


87 posted on 11/27/2006 7:42:36 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: meandog

wow, how do you really feel about that. I don't home school, but I have no doubt that the average parent can home school their kids to Jr Hi school with better than average results. Not sure I would want to continue after that.

Consider that your personal examples could be worse cases that stand out in your mind. How do you think your examples would stand next to average students in say Washington DC, St Louis, or Kansas City?

One size doesn't fit all.


88 posted on 11/27/2006 7:42:44 AM PST by zek157
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To: meandog; 2banana; BenLurkin; mariabush; TonyRo76

Our school district has tried three times to pass a tax levy and will try for number four in February. The first thing the school board did was close down the libraries in the elementary schools and eliminate teacher aides. Many people have come forward to volunteer in the libraries and help out in the classrooms. The school board refused these volunteers. When I asked a current teacher why the school board so adamantly refuses volunteer help, her reply was, "If we fill those jobs with volunteers, the paying positions will never come back. Those people really should get paid for those jobs." Un-freakin'-believable!! NEA-speak, if I ever heard it! And since the last defeat, the school board is going away with busing (of course -- the thing that will hurt the most). In the meantime, my real estate taxes have doubled in the last ten years. Get a clue school board -- we just can't afford higher taxes for a lesser product!


89 posted on 11/27/2006 7:43:26 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: meandog
Homeschooling parents are the most arrogant lots you'll ever find, in always knowing what's best in educating their children, and in the end do their kids a disservice.

Spoken like a true statist.
90 posted on 11/27/2006 7:43:45 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: July 4th

If that is the case what does this idiot know? He's not a teacher! What a hoot!


91 posted on 11/27/2006 7:44:48 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: 2banana

Per Pupil spending in Putnam Valley NY (a northern Westchester suburb of NYC) is $20,000 per student, and rising at roughly 10% per year.


92 posted on 11/27/2006 7:44:50 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I knew 2 engineering professionals who homeschooled their kids. At age 10, their daughter was doing college level math and literature.


93 posted on 11/27/2006 7:45:08 AM PST by Muzzle_em (taglines are for sissies)
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To: Blueflag

Yes, leave your children to suffer the "benefits" of a lousy education while we forstall any efforts at reform.

The best way to reform public education is to leave it.
That is the only message that educators will understand.


94 posted on 11/27/2006 7:45:15 AM PST by bordergal (There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of men bad enough for this treachery)
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To: AnAmericanMother
And it may be hubristic of me, but I would put my academic qualifications up against those of any public high school teacher. I'm not qualified to teach math or science at the high school level...

So, how are the kids you homeschool going to do on the following standard high school math question:
Two automobiles start out in opposite directions. Each go 40 miles; make 90-degree left turns and go 30 miles. How far apart are they?

95 posted on 11/27/2006 7:45:28 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: meandog

Is this article from the Onion?


96 posted on 11/27/2006 7:45:37 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: meandog
I fully understand the angst against public schools

I don't think you do understand. The homeschooling movement intends to DESTROY the educational establishment. Actually the rise of "Big Education" has destroyed it already, but it retains a death grip on the children of the country. These parents are willing to pay their taxes and not receive benefits because they feel so strongly that public schools do more harm than good.

You should be asking yourself why that is rather than insulting and pointing fingers at those brave enough to step out of line.

97 posted on 11/27/2006 7:45:56 AM PST by ichabod1 (Democracy = Anarchy)
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To: meandog

Did you forget your /sarc tag or are you that hostile to homeschoolers that you think we are all just filled with "hubris" ?

We homeschoolers call them co-ops, and most of us use them.

I guess our kids are unprepared for socialistic, mindless drivel to be rammed into their heads as real academics.


98 posted on 11/27/2006 7:46:24 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: BenLurkin

At 42, I STILL carry emotional scars from my years in public school. What a WONDERFUL social experieince that was...NOT!


99 posted on 11/27/2006 7:46:36 AM PST by Muzzle_em (taglines are for sissies)
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To: meandog

More trash on janitor Dave here:

http://cache.zoominfo.com/cachedpage/?archive_id=0&page_id=561077525&page_url=%2f%2fwww.owl.org%2fapplication%3forigin%3dmax.jsp%26event%3dbea.portal.framework.internal.portlet.maximize%26pageid%3dHome%26portletid%3dHomeESP%26wfevent%3dnull%26contentId%3dxml%2fPublicContent%2fGC5667.htm&page_last_updated=7%2f8%2f2004+4%3a34%3a58+AM&firstName=Dave&lastName=Arnold


The Quiet Leader
Meet the Man Behind the ESP Poems and Editorials
When not hunting critters with his homemade 18th century musket, Dave Arnold uses a bow and arrow. He uses his homemade canoe to catch fish in a local river. The school custodian writes editorials for NEA, publishes poetry, and was named Illinois Education Association's ESP of the Year.

Dave Arnold may be the most famous custodian in the United States who most people have never heard of.

(snip)


100 posted on 11/27/2006 7:47:28 AM PST by maggief
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