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Home Schools Run By Well-Meaning Amateurs
NEA ^ | By Dave Arnold

Posted on 11/27/2006 7:04:44 AM PST by meandog

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To: Marie
HSing isn't for everyone, but it isn't necessarily true that PS is the best option for all children.

On this board HS isn't everything, it is the ONLY thing!

261 posted on 11/27/2006 9:20:21 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: meandog

Consider the source.


262 posted on 11/27/2006 9:21:45 AM PST by Busywhiskers (The fool says in his heart, "There is no God".)
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To: meandog
There's nothing like having the right person with the right experience, skills and tools to accomplish a specific task. Certain jobs are best left to the pros, such as, formal education.

Perhaps that's true. When the NEA becomes more of a professional organization than a political agitator and self-promoting trade guild, I'll take it seriously.

263 posted on 11/27/2006 9:22:48 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: ichabod1

"The homeschooling movement intends to DESTROY the educational establishment. "

Hmmm. the homeschool market share is about 1-2% of kids.
Will Macs destroy the PC? I dont think so.

"Actually the rise of "Big Education" has destroyed it already, but it retains a death grip on the children of the country."

Correct, but I dont see that changing soon. We spend more and more on education than ever before. Ideas to fix the schools and reform them fundamentally, ie, vouchers and school choice, need to be given a chance - but are not.

Too many are complacent.

" These parents are willing to pay their taxes and not receive benefits because they feel so strongly that public schools do more harm than good."

I feel strongly that something has to be done.
As long as the sheeple vote Democrat, and confuse "good education" with "more spending on public school bureaucracy" we will get nowhere.


264 posted on 11/27/2006 9:24:54 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: luckystarmom
Third, if the public schools were doing their jobs, then people wouldn't be pulling kids out of them. Lots of public school do not have science, music, art, PE, or history. If you want to have those things, they need to be in private or homeschooled

The most demanding job in education today is in special education...so there may not be a public school to help your daughter in your community. However, I have yet to find any public school not offering the subjects you list. I do, however, support your notion of private schools as I believe them much better at teaching than homeschooling.

265 posted on 11/27/2006 9:25:32 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: RobRoy

"What our obsolete public schools produce: ..."

Your link was blocked as objectionable here... hmmm.


266 posted on 11/27/2006 9:26:16 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: meandog
I’m certainly not opposed to religious schools, or to anyone standing up for what they believe in. I admire anyone who has the strength to stand up against the majority. But in this case, pulling children out of a school is not the best way to fight the laws that govern our education system. No battle has ever been won by retreating!

In other words, you should be using your child as fodder for his battle. Hmmm... That would certainly explain all of those private school students who's parents are public school teachers!

267 posted on 11/27/2006 9:26:19 AM PST by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: WOSG; meandog

I was going to quote that same thing. And reply, what poppycock that a commie unionist would ever be fired! Their jobs (i.e., money) are so precious!


268 posted on 11/27/2006 9:26:45 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: meandog

Just because someone is an amature does not mean they are not the best.

Custom car amatures make autos superior to any professional.

The NEA should be welcome this because this means more space and monies directed to the students. OOOPS I forgot the NEA has nothing to do with teaching students.


269 posted on 11/27/2006 9:27:58 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: meandog
"And when you're a teacher, prepare to be FReeper flamed...teachers here are treated worse than Democrats!"

Not by everyone here. We've utlized public, private and homeschooling - all successfully, I might add.

We've had some wonderful public school teachers, but when we had bad teachers, the "system" protected them to the point of criminal behavior, imo. Ever had a kid locked in a closet for forgetting homework? :( :( :(

And still teaching years later?

270 posted on 11/27/2006 9:30:09 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: higgmeister; Muzzle_em

The sad thing is, the kids who are not quite as smart, or driven, or whose parents don't supplement their education, are having a terrible time, both when (if) they go to college, and in the work force. They don't learn what they need to know, and the idea of slacking as being acceptable, is reinforced. Bad for them, bad for America, bad for the world.


271 posted on 11/27/2006 9:30:13 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: meandog

Education is the only profession, soi dissant profession might be more accurate, wherein amateurs regularly outperform degreed and gooberment approved "professionals".

Imagine what engineers would be paid if amateurs regularly did better design work than engineers. What would we pay a physician if home based, self taught non-physicians could regularly and reliably do better diagnostic work?

Just wondering.


272 posted on 11/27/2006 9:30:24 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: Texas_shutterbug

See #257


273 posted on 11/27/2006 9:31:17 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: wbill
Little known fact: Crispus Attucks was most probably not black, but a Natick Indian.

Still less known fact: Attucks was in the process of attempting to murder a British soldier in the middle of a street riot. The "Liberty Boys" of Sam Adams were not exactly your model citizens. Fortunately after the excesses of the "Boston Massacre" Sam's cousin John and other more responsible citizens of Boston were able to squelch Sam and his confederates, thus avoiding a foretaste of the French Revolution.

But they won't teach you that in history class.

274 posted on 11/27/2006 9:31:34 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: LurkingSince'98; shag377

"it is called Saxon Math."

Saxon Math is great. It was used in the private school for our kids, and then when they went to public schools, we decided to 'supplement' with saxon math. The public schools dont give enough homework out, and saxon math is strong of repeating and building up concepts.

Anyone who has been to College and/or made it past HS math can teach the early grade math with it, and real math learning has to happen in the kids head anyway.


275 posted on 11/27/2006 9:31:53 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: WOSG
Yes, and Crispus Attucks is described as a hero, when in fact he was a victim.

Vocabulary loses a lot of meaning in the politically correct environment.

276 posted on 11/27/2006 9:32:07 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: GladesGuru
Well, I wonder too. I wonder why, if public education is SOOOOOO bad why homeschooling parents stop at the high school level. Why not homeschool the future physician, lawyer, pharmacist or pastor? < /sarc >
277 posted on 11/27/2006 9:34:37 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: meandog
There are few homeowners who can tackle every aspect of home repair. ...

I knew it was downhill from here. Sad that they get away with peddling this bilge to supposedly educated people.

Look for the union label...
278 posted on 11/27/2006 9:34:40 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: WesternPacific

...meandog whines too much about being flamed on Freepers...he/she ought to post the blandest, most pallid remark in support of Intelligent Design and see the grilling that results...the personal insults start about post #3 in the thread...


279 posted on 11/27/2006 9:38:07 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Texas_shutterbug; WOSG

I would describe Attucks as a "perpetrator." He's a "victim" in the same way that a street thug who gets shot by the real victim in an attempted carjacking is a "victim."


280 posted on 11/27/2006 9:38:14 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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