[Sunsong]

It is imperative that our leaders understand the times we live in as well as what self-government is about. Just recycling an older time will not work.

[JerseyJohn61]

If what you mean by self-goverment is self -discipline,
than I understand what you mean. If not, then I don't.

In the 1970's, folks started installing wood burning
stoves for the first time in a generation or two, and
that movement is still going strong. Was that a bad
recycled idea from an older time?...JJ61