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To: cogitator
Here is what Felix has on his site about Milankovitch cycles:

"The key to understanding what is really occurring on Earth is to understand that there are known cycles. As Felix notes, ‘there is an ice-age cycle known as the Milankovitch cycle; one that returns like clockwork. I believe it is now time for the next beat of that cycle.’"

Water's Nice, But Not as Ice

"“It was round about the end of the last ice age, some 13,000 years ago, that a global warming process did undoubtedly begin. Not because of all those Stone age folk roasting mammoth meat on fossil fuel camp fires but because of something called the 'Milankovitch Cycles,' an entirely natural fact of planetary life that depends on the tilt of the Earth's axis and its orbit around the sun."

Global Warming? What a load of poppycock!

"Ice ages correlate with our galactic orbit · So do peaks in strontium and lead · Ice ages correlate with our celestial orbit · Copernicus · Adhémar · Leverrier · Croll · Milankovitch · Precession: "Pacemaker of the Ice ages"

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"This cycle appears to match the 100,000-year ice-age cycle first theorized by Milutin Milankovitch, which suggests that ice ages correspond to the cyclical varations in the Earth's orbit around the Sun. (Earth & Planetary Science Ltrs, Vol. 199, issues 3-4, June 10, 2002)"

Magnetic Reversals and Glaciation

So what's your point? I have read Felix's book and suggest you read it. Felix is not a kook nor is Professor Lindzen. Human caused global warming and the inherent hubris that man can control the earth's natural climate cycles have become the tenets of an environmental religion. You beliefs are based on a selected set of "facts" and any data that contradict this belief are considered irrelevant or erroneous. The reality is that no consensus exists on global warming and what to do about it. There is no good basis to expend billions of dollars on treaties like Kyoto. It is not good public policy and it is akin to tilting at windmills.

43 posted on 11/21/2006 11:46:09 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Good. So does Felix think that the next Milankovitch-forced cooling trend into the next glacial period is due to begin now?


44 posted on 11/21/2006 11:48:13 AM PST by cogitator
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To: kabar
"“It was round about the end of the last ice age, some 13,000 years ago, that a global warming process did undoubtedly begin. Not because of all those Stone age folk roasting mammoth meat on fossil fuel camp fires but because of something called the 'Milankovitch Cycles,' an entirely natural fact of planetary life that depends on the tilt of the Earth's axis and its orbit around the sun."

But that has very little bearing on recent warming. The warming that led us out of the last glacial period 13,000 years ago has not occured gradually over the last 13,000 years - it pretty much all happened by 8,000 years ago. That is all the 6C warming that led us out of the last glacial period occured between about 13,000-8,000 years ago. Since then there have been temperature ups and downs, but those are different patterns.

52 posted on 11/21/2006 12:13:55 PM PST by bobdsmith
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