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To: spacejunkie
I am from the camp that people ARE born gay.

I am less convinced of that. All my gay friends have had strong mothers and non-existent fathers. It has often been months before they mention their fathers and I usually assumed by then that he wasn't in the home. I have often been wrong about that. It seems they have never made the natural break between mother and son which occurs around 3 - 5, and wanted to be 'like daddy". Just an observation.

54 posted on 11/21/2006 9:30:52 AM PST by pbear8 (Love you Rummy)
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To: pbear8
All my gay friends have had strong mothers and non-existent fathers.

Very astute observation. This is the elephant in the room when it comes to homosexual development.
55 posted on 11/21/2006 3:12:29 PM PST by SoulMan
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To: pbear8

"I am from the camp that people ARE born gay."

There are many inborn tendencies in people, including all manner of criminal and deviant behavior, but sometimes you must do what is right. Clearly, the inborn argument can be used as an excuse for any behavior. This is such a transparently idiotic argument it pains me to address it.


59 posted on 11/22/2006 8:13:54 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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"All my gay friends have had strong mothers and non-existent fathers."

The few homosexuals I have known were universally molested by other homosexuals when they were kids. The best estimates are that over 80% of male homosexuals were molested as children. Many of the so-called "homophobes" (aka people who are disgusted by homosexuals) were also molested as kids by homosexuals.


62 posted on 11/22/2006 8:18:30 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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