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Liberal Professor Targeted Me From Day One, Says Christian Student
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| November 20, 2006
| Meghan Mulhern
Posted on 11/20/2006 11:19:51 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Doctor Raoul
After Kauffman filed the grievance, Brooker faced a lengthy session of questioning by an ethics committee, during which she was asked questions like: "Do you think gays and lesbians are sinners?" and "Do you think I'm a sinner?" Reminds you of the Soviets doesn't it...
The Pharisees also...
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posted on
11/20/2006 11:46:58 AM PST
by
balk
(thefightnetwork.com)
To: highimpact
Yes, and heterosexuals are sinners. I'm a sinner too. You're a sinner. Evangelical preachers are sinners. Buddhist Monks are sinners. Ronald Reagan was a sinner, and Bill Clinton is a sinner. That's what Christianity teaches. Everybody sins, and Jesus paid the price for your sins. If you believe in Jesus, then you're as pure as the wind-driven snow in the eyes of the Lord. Beat me to it...well said. I would love to have been in that room and had that questioned asked. It would have been a great opportunity to tell them about sin and God's laws.
To: Doctor Raoul
After Kauffman filed the grievance, Brooker faced a lengthy session of questioning by an ethics committee, during which she was asked questions like: "Do you think gays and lesbians are sinners?" and "Do you think I'm a sinner?"
I just hope she said "Hell Yeah!!" when asked...
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posted on
11/20/2006 11:50:21 AM PST
by
bpjam
(Don't Blame Me. I Voted GOP.)
To: Doctor Raoul
Of course her best answer would be, "Of course. We're all sinners. But some of us are forgiven."
That would really drive them crazy.
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posted on
11/20/2006 11:50:41 AM PST
by
Hugin
To: madprof98
Brooker said she opposes homosexual adoption because of her beliefs as a Methodist. Obviously, not the kind of Methodist who runs the show in that denomination.
Many denominations have problems with their leadership now. Since your tagline is in latin is it safe to assume you're catholic? If so, can you think of any problems your own denomination has had in recent years?
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posted on
11/20/2006 11:51:25 AM PST
by
Mogollon
To: highimpact; American Quilter
That's what Christianity teaches. Everybody sins, and Jesus paid the price for your sins.
Exactly right. I think that liberals don't have any problem with a Christian say that "I'm a sinner", only when they say "and you're a sinner, too", do they come unhinged.
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posted on
11/20/2006 11:51:27 AM PST
by
Sopater
(Creatio Ex Nihilo)
To: sasafras
Professors probably would have a different attitude if they were being paid their salary directly from the students each week. When a person pays for a service, such as getting an education, they shouldn't have to be subject to threats, coercion, and force by those teachers they choose for that service.
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posted on
11/20/2006 11:54:50 AM PST
by
Kirkwood
To: Sopater
"Emily Brooker was vindicated when the university agreed to an out-of-court settlement, and the professor was disciplined."
I would love to meet Emily and shake her hand and say thank you.
One person can make a difference.
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posted on
11/20/2006 12:00:22 PM PST
by
HereInTheHeartland
(Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
To: Sopater
Exactly right. I think that liberals don't have any problem with a Christian say that "I'm a sinner", only when they say "and you're a sinner, too", do they come unhinged. Good point. I think non-believers take it a step further and apply judgement to the equation. It's judgement that makes them uncomfortable. They don't want to be judged by a bunch of "holier than thou" Christians, even though every Christian I've ever known has preached the impossibility of sin-free life on Earth, and the wholly underserved forgiveness and mercy of Christ.
To: -YYZ-
the professors' personal opinions on a wide variety of subject were not something they generally shared with us or imposed on us. Many were probably conservative, some probably liberal, but it was not something that ever came up in classThey should'nt come up in a philosophy or sociology class, either. During my college days, I had great professors that I'm pretty darned sure were liberal, but could not be absolutely certain about that, either. And I was never punished for speaking my opinion, which was conservative then. I also had to sit through some classes where the professors were flat out lefty loons that made no bones about that, but still was not punished for expressing my conservative opinions.
The good ones keep you in doubt and the honest ones that have even a shred of intellectual integrity will give you credit where it is due. I had a comment on a paper that read (verbatim):
"I see you have a fanatical bent for individual rights, despite the fact that we have shown this semester of how damaging they can be to the community and the individual themselves. Oh well, at least you do write well and present your point of view in a logical, concise manner, with good factual support for your conclusions and opinions."
One of the dammedest things I've ever read. I got an A on the paper, too.
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posted on
11/20/2006 12:01:43 PM PST
by
L,TOWM
(Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
To: Kirkwood
It seemed to work well for Immanual Kant and many other Age of Enlightenment professors.
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posted on
11/20/2006 12:03:35 PM PST
by
L,TOWM
(Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
To: DouglasKC
I would love to have been in that room and had that questioned asked. It would have been a great opportunity to tell them about sin and God's laws. I'm with you on that, but something tells me Emily managed just fine on her own.
To: Sopater
"The end result of the homosexual movement is not same-sex marriage," he added. "It is silencing the opposition. The end goal of the same-sex movement cannot tolerate anybody that has an opposing view point. These kinds of cases are indicative of that." Not all gay people belong to this "movement." There are gay people who wish for nothing more than to be left alone, so they can live their lives quietly. They know what goes on in the bars and baths, and they see the indecency on display at parades, and they are also offended by this. Many gay people do not want gay marriage, understanding the special role of marriage; they might wish for a limited sort of civil union or partners benefits for insurance.
Also, many gay people are deeply religious and understand the principle that no one has freedom of speech, religion or conscience if anyone does not have these rights.
In return, Christians and others who believe that homosexuality is immoral and unhealthy need to realize that most of the medical community and much of society no longer believes this. If they find themselves in a state-supported university whose faculty teach that homosexuality is normal and healthy, they should not be surprised. Nor should they carry on as if they are about to be fed to the lions because their point of view is received with skepticism or a particle of hostility. They should of course however expect their rights to be treated with complete respect; I find it deeply gratifying to see a leftist bully get disciplined in this public manner.
Feel free to call or write and discuss this issue with Professor Kaufman. I am sure he would like to hear from us. Here is his information:
107 Pebble Creek
Willard, MO 65781
(417) 742-2450
frankkauffman@missouristate.edu
To: Racehorse
"The university said in a statement it had agreed to clear Brooker's record, pay her $9,000, and cover the costs of a two-year Masters degree course, plus living expenses, at any state university in Missouri."
New College Motto:
"Here at Missouri State University,
we rip-off students too stupid, gutless
or already indoctrinated to complain
and pass the benefits on to you !!!"
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posted on
11/20/2006 12:13:51 PM PST
by
GMMAC
(Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
To: balk; Doctor Raoul
After Kauffman filed the grievance, Brooker faced a lengthy session of questioning by an ethics committee, during which she was asked questions like: "Do you think gays and lesbians are sinners?" and "Do you think I'm a sinner?" Reminds you of the Soviets doesn't it... The Pharisees also... What I'd like to ask the "leadership" of the University what these questions were about, who was asking them, why they were asking them, and do they intend to ask them of others in the future?
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posted on
11/20/2006 12:18:22 PM PST
by
subterfuge
(Tolerance has become the greatest virtue, and hypocrisy the worst character defect.)
To: Sopater
It figures. A female sexual minority is essentially a nazi in imposing her views on others.
These are the worst, the most shrill, the most mean and vindictive.
No wonder Rush calls them feminazis.
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posted on
11/20/2006 12:21:21 PM PST
by
Leftism is Mentally Deranged
(Radical Feminism: hating men (but not their money), the family, children, self)
To: highimpact
You didn't mention, that everyone who has ever lived on this earth was/is a sinner....except one. Jesus was tempted as we are, but without sin.
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posted on
11/20/2006 12:22:27 PM PST
by
fredhead
(Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?)
To: Sopater
The matter's behind us, it's been resolved in a collegial fashion, and we wish Emily nothing but the best," John Black, general counsel at Missouri State University, said Friday. Apparently they didn't wish her the best until the lawsuit was filed.
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posted on
11/20/2006 12:23:18 PM PST
by
from occupied ga
(Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
To: highimpact
I'm with you on that, but something tells me Emily managed just fine on her own.
I think Emily had some help from the Holy Spirit. ;-)
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posted on
11/20/2006 12:24:19 PM PST
by
Talking_Mouse
(wahhabi delenda est)
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