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Megapastor Rick Warren's Damascus Road experience (Megapastor Rick Warren admits he's in CFR)
World Net ^ | November 20, 2006 | Joe Farrah

Posted on 11/20/2006 5:44:21 AM PST by Esther Ruth

Megapastor Rick Warren's Damascus Road experience (Megapastor Rick Warren admits he's in CFR)

Posted: November 20, 200 1:00 a.m. Eastern

WASHINGTON – Rick Warren, the superstar mega-church pastor and bestselling author of ''The Purpose Driven Life,'' had a Damascus Road experience last week – and like Saul of Tarsus, one of the after-effects appears to be blindness. Warren went to Syria and could find no persecution of Christians. He could find no persecution of Jews. He could find no evidence of extremism. He could find no evidence of the sponsorship of terrorism.

Despite the temporary loss of vision that prevented him from seeing any evil in the totalitarian police state, Warren's hearing was apparently not affected – for his ears were tickled by what he heard and apparently accepted lock, stock and barrel from the second-generation dictator, Bashar Assad, and his state-approved mufti.

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But that's not the story Warren is telling – at least not in the official press releases he is sending out from Rwanda in response to my confrontations with him last week in which I accused him of betraying his own country in a hostile foreign land and of being a propaganda tool of the Islamo-fascist regime in Damascus.

In fact, after I called him out last week in my column, Warren e-mailed me claiming to have been misquoted by the official Syrian news agency.

''Joseph, why didn't you contact me first and discover the fact that I said nothing of the sort?'' he pleaded. ''The trip was a favor to my next door neighbor, had nothing to do with policy, and was done with the State Department's knowledge – who told us to expect exactly what Syria did – a PR blast. I don't pretend to be a diplomat. I'm a pastor who just gets invited places.''

I pointed out to Warren that WND had indeed attempted to contact him about his trip. No one from his Saddleback Church ever returned our calls the day the story broke.

''I'm sure since you were warned in advance by the State Department that you took the precaution of recording your own words,'' I suggested in my response. ''We look forward to seeing the transcripts or hearing the recordings.''

I also asked if he could respond specifically to the words put in his mouth by the Syrian news agency. And lastly I suggested that he should have ''counseled with me, or other people knowledgeable about the Middle East before doing so much damage with your reckless trip.''

I really didn't expect to hear back from Warren – but, a few minutes later, I did, with an absolutely stunning retort.

He let me know he is a close friend of President Bush ''and many, if not most, of the generals at the Pentagon.''

He also told me he did not tape anything while in Syria, ''because it was a courtesy call, like I do in every country.''

Warren explained that he had also counseled with the National Security Council and the White House, as well as the State Department, before his little courtesy call for a neighbor.

''In fact,'' Warren added, ''as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Oxford Analytica, I might know as much about the Middle East as you.''

He continued: ''I hope you'll not choose to believe Syrian propaganda even though, as you pointed out at the start of your article, you've been wanting to criticize me for some time. In spite of your rush to judgment, I think you write great, insightful columns. You are almost batting 1,000.''

No sooner had I received this surprising response from Warren, I also got an e-mail providing a link to a YouTube video of Rick Warren in Syria explaining how great the Assad regime treats Christians and Jews and how Damascus ''does not permit extremism of any kind.''

Not one to let lies go unchallenged, I wrote back to Warren with a link to the YouTube video: ''If you didn't tape anything, what's this? Do you really believe Syria does not allow extremism of any kind? There are more terrorist organizations based in Syria than anywhere else in the world!''

It might be that Rick Warren, deep in the bush of Rwanda, never received those last questions, because he never responded – at least not in the last three days.

He did, however, within minutes make sure the YouTube video he recorded independent of his meetings with the Syrian brown shirts was removed from the network. Vanished. Kaput. Sterilized. Cleansed.

Stay tuned for more on Rick Warren's ''Agenda-Driven Life'' in the coming days – sponsored, of course, by the Council on Foreign Relations.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: burqagirl; cfr; dhimmicrats; evangelical; nancypelosi; occult; oneworld; purposedrivenlife; rickwarren; saddlebackchurch; syria; warren
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To: carmody
"I would love to see journalists exposed"

You can be sure that if there was anything about Joe Farah that was worthy of exposure, Hitlery Klinton would have exposed it by now.

He's an excellent newsman.

121 posted on 11/20/2006 1:57:12 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

We must be in different galactic clusters.


122 posted on 11/20/2006 1:59:56 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: mariabush; indylindy
"Being large or small in number is not what makes or breaks a spiritual church!"

The question is which spirit?

123 posted on 11/20/2006 2:01:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Quix

I speak only of what happens in this one.


124 posted on 11/20/2006 2:04:30 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Esther Ruth

later reading


125 posted on 11/20/2006 2:07:28 PM PST by 70times7 (Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I'm exceedingly UNconvinced of that!


126 posted on 11/20/2006 2:08:06 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Esther Ruth
What conclusions should people draw I wonder about the CFR, it's goals, members and their view about Israel? Would the CFR goals be Zionist or antiZionist?

The CFR is definitely anti-Israel and anti-Zionist, but to the "palaeos" "Zionism" doesn't refer to the movement to create a Jewish state in the Land of Israel but to "the plot to rule the world." That's how a lunatic like Alan Stang can actually defend Israel from "Zionism," since "the Zionist conspiracy" has now declared war on it.

There are still plenty of "conservatives" who think that "Zionism" is the engine of all evil in the world. About a week ago I was being harassed and stalked by one of these Nimrods just because of my screen name (therefore I was "in on it"). This nonsense has been going on for a long time. The Protocols claims to be the minutes of the First Zionist Congress (Basle, Switzerland, 1897) and Nesta Webster (a particular favorite of the Birch Society) also thought that "Zionism" was the "hidden hand" behind all the trouble in the world.

Of course, now that the the UN and CFR are blatantly anti-Israel and under attack by "neocons," I suppose that will now make them heroes to the Birchies and other "palaeos."

127 posted on 11/20/2006 2:10:12 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ve'elleh toledot Yitzchaq Ben 'Avraham; 'Avraham holid 'et Yitzchaq.)
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To: Quix

What else would a "Globalist" or supporter of the "New World Order" speak of. And OMG I believe in Free Trade.


128 posted on 11/20/2006 2:10:17 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: editor-surveyor

A large number of Christians who believe in the actual word of God is a good thing, as long as the message of God is more important than the pastor. Where the true spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


129 posted on 11/20/2006 2:18:03 PM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The CFR is definitely anti-Israel and anti-Zionist

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Thank you very much for that answer!!! That's all I need to know.


130 posted on 11/20/2006 2:42:11 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: indylindy
Megachurches are not good. Makes me thnk of "The One World Church"

Isn't the Vatican a "megachurch"?
131 posted on 11/20/2006 2:48:27 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Esther Ruth
The CFR is definitely anti-Israel and anti-Zionist

Thank you very much for that answer!!! That's all I need to know.

You've never heard of the Council on Foreign Relations? They're one of the biggest and most traditional of the Birch Society/"palaeocon" bugbears. But the thing is, the "palaeos" think that the CFR is one of the major organs of the "Zionist conspiracy."

132 posted on 11/20/2006 2:52:19 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ve'elleh toledot Yitzchaq Ben 'Avraham; 'Avraham holid 'et Yitzchaq.)
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To: TommyDale

Rick Warren sure has some cool Hawaiian shirts he drapes over his belly


133 posted on 11/20/2006 2:56:30 PM PST by dennisw ("For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks-- Matt. 12:34)
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To: dennisw

Yes, he is a true fashion hound.


134 posted on 11/20/2006 2:59:31 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Quix; justshutupandtakeit
"We must be in different galactic clusters."

justshutupandtakeit is on the other side of the 'big bang,' moving away from earth at .999C

135 posted on 11/20/2006 3:11:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Quix

LOL. Amen.


136 posted on 11/20/2006 3:13:06 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: TommyDale
No doubt. Rick Warren was wrong from the beginning of his books, when he used the psychology of Carl Jung.

Amen.

THE ARYAN CHRIST:
The Secret Life of Carl Jung
by Richard Noll

137 posted on 11/20/2006 3:16:02 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: TommyDale

And the shorts & sandals simply complete the ensemble.


138 posted on 11/20/2006 3:20:32 PM PST by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

No it is not. The Vatican doesn't try to appeal to those who are really not believers. I just worry about those selling charisma and where the pastor is too big, bigger than God to his parishoners. I always remember the Jim Jones thing. Perversion. So easy for people to be swayed falsely. I really do not see the Vatican interfering much with the Christian religion if people are not a Catholic. Good? Maybe, Maybe not.


139 posted on 11/20/2006 3:21:48 PM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
But the thing is, the "palaeos" think that the CFR is one of the major organs of the "Zionist conspiracy."

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So things are not as they appear? and have they been intentionally deceptive for the sake of confusion, covering the bases, talking out of both sides of mouth? Don't know what the definition of a paleocon is.

Have they evolved into this antiIsrael/antiZionism position or has it always been clearly theirs?

CFR membership lists are all over the web http://www.mega.nu/ampp/roundtable/CFRA-Elist.html
Tons of conservatives who I assume are pro-Israel are on it: Sharansky, Netanyahu, Olmert, Tony Snow??

So which is it - Is this group actually deceptive (and counterfeiting as proIsrael) but in reality out to take away the land of Israel that was given back to God's Chosen Jewish people by God Himself in 48, and give it to the gentiles wrongly?
140 posted on 11/20/2006 3:34:22 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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