Megapastor Rick Warren's Damascus Road experience (Megapastor Rick Warren admits he's in CFR)

World Net ^ | November 20, 2006 | Joe Farrah

[editor-surveyor]

"I would love to see journalists exposed"

You can be sure that if there was anything about Joe Farah that was worthy of exposure, Hitlery Klinton would have exposed it by now.

He's an excellent newsman.

[Quix]

We must be in different galactic clusters.

[editor-surveyor]

"Being large or small in number is not what makes or breaks a spiritual church!"

The question is which spirit?

[justshutupandtakeit]

I speak only of what happens in this one.

[70times7]

later reading

[Quix]

I'm exceedingly UNconvinced of that!

[Zionist Conspirator]

What conclusions should people draw I wonder about the CFR, it's goals, members and their view about Israel? Would the CFR goals be Zionist or antiZionist?

The CFR is definitely anti-Israel and anti-Zionist, but to the "palaeos" "Zionism" doesn't refer to the movement to create a Jewish state in the Land of Israel but to "the plot to rule the world." That's how a lunatic like Alan Stang can actually defend Israel from "Zionism," since "the Zionist conspiracy" has now declared war on it.

There are still plenty of "conservatives" who think that "Zionism" is the engine of all evil in the world. About a week ago I was being harassed and stalked by one of these Nimrods just because of my screen name (therefore I was "in on it"). This nonsense has been going on for a long time. The Protocols claims to be the minutes of the First Zionist Congress (Basle, Switzerland, 1897) and Nesta Webster (a particular favorite of the Birch Society) also thought that "Zionism" was the "hidden hand" behind all the trouble in the world.

Of course, now that the the UN and CFR are blatantly anti-Israel and under attack by "neocons," I suppose that will now make them heroes to the Birchies and other "palaeos."

[justshutupandtakeit]

What else would a "Globalist" or supporter of the "New World Order" speak of. And OMG I believe in Free Trade.

[dforest]

A large number of Christians who believe in the actual word of God is a good thing, as long as the message of God is more important than the pastor. Where the true spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

[Esther Ruth]

The CFR is definitely anti-Israel and anti-Zionist

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Thank you very much for that answer!!! That's all I need to know.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Megachurches are not good. Makes me thnk of "The One World Church"

Isn't the Vatican a "megachurch"?

[Zionist Conspirator]

The CFR is definitely anti-Israel and anti-Zionist

Thank you very much for that answer!!! That's all I need to know.

You've never heard of the Council on Foreign Relations? They're one of the biggest and most traditional of the Birch Society/"palaeocon" bugbears. But the thing is, the "palaeos" think that the CFR is one of the major organs of the "Zionist conspiracy."

[dennisw]

Rick Warren sure has some cool Hawaiian shirts he drapes over his belly

[TommyDale]

Yes, he is a true fashion hound.

[editor-surveyor]

"We must be in different galactic clusters."

justshutupandtakeit is on the other side of the 'big bang,' moving away from earth at .999C

[Dr. Eckleburg]

LOL. Amen.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

No doubt. Rick Warren was wrong from the beginning of his books, when he used the psychology of Carl Jung.

Amen.

THE ARYAN CHRIST:
The Secret Life of Carl Jung
by Richard Noll

[Sue Perkick]

And the shorts & sandals simply complete the ensemble.

[dforest]

No it is not. The Vatican doesn't try to appeal to those who are really not believers. I just worry about those selling charisma and where the pastor is too big, bigger than God to his parishoners. I always remember the Jim Jones thing. Perversion. So easy for people to be swayed falsely. I really do not see the Vatican interfering much with the Christian religion if people are not a Catholic. Good? Maybe, Maybe not.

[Esther Ruth]

But the thing is, the "palaeos" think that the CFR is one of the major organs of the "Zionist conspiracy."

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So things are not as they appear? and have they been intentionally deceptive for the sake of confusion, covering the bases, talking out of both sides of mouth? Don't know what the definition of a paleocon is.

Have they evolved into this antiIsrael/antiZionism position or has it always been clearly theirs?

CFR membership lists are all over the web http://www.mega.nu/ampp/roundtable/CFRA-Elist.html
Tons of conservatives who I assume are pro-Israel are on it: Sharansky, Netanyahu, Olmert, Tony Snow??

So which is it - Is this group actually deceptive (and counterfeiting as proIsrael) but in reality out to take away the land of Israel that was given back to God's Chosen Jewish people by God Himself in 48, and give it to the gentiles wrongly?