Posted on 11/19/2006 4:43:19 PM PST by Reagan Man
No party wins by saying they aren't as bad as the other guys, Dane.
Please proceed promptly to your next strawman so we can get this nonsense over with by my bedtime.
The accidentally ignorant are curable.
The deliberately ignorant are not.
I think that will be because the Democrats now run the House.
Most people around here voted straight Republican, so get upset with those that didn't bother to vote. Swing voters didn't help us this year and Independents voted against Republicans.
Huh the democrats did.
Bingo!
They didn't win. We lost. The party in power has to give a reason why they should remain in such a position. To the average voter, a party that preaches limited government while simultaneously busting the budget has very little credibility.
OK, please put up the next strawman. I wanna be in bed by 10 pm eastern. That should give you time to put up five or six more before I hit the hay.
None of that caused this as much as those demos. They fired up the Pro-illegals and undermined the GOP support.
No other reason a party defending the nation and growing the economy would have been rejected by rational people. The Hysteria here was incredible as you well know since you were fanning the flames with both hands.
And the legislation will be proposed and pushed by nancy pelosi.
You all could have gotten on board with the Kyl/Cornyn, but you decided bashing hispanics was a better route, and you paid the price, a nancy pelosi house.
I have a clear conscience in that I did not aid in pelosi's ascendency, unlike others on FR who gave her a proxy vote by sitting out the election, or a direct vote by voting for these so-called new "conservative" democrats.
Defending the nation? The GOP talked about the War on Terrorism while failing to secure our borders.
Growing the economy? The GOP grew the federal budget like it hasn't been grown before. Anyone can live large on a credit card. But sooner or later, the bill comes due.
I am aghast that the Dems are in power. But the GOP, quite frankly, pissed away their moral standing to stay in power by running up earmark after earmark while simultaneously borrowing money to wage war in Iraq. If they were truly serious about the responsibility of their power, they would have refrained from such.
And you will get all warm and squishy about it, Dane.
Ok, Dane, stop right there. That is not true and you know it. BUT, it's what the Dems made the Hispanics think. No one here is anti-Hispanic. We are anti-illegal immigrant. I guess the Dem ploy worked with you too?
What's to hide?
By the way, what makes Nancy Pelosi's stand of illegal immigration any different fromk that of the liberal Democrats that voted her to that post?
I never heard it mentioned by her or the MSM in the run-up>
I can see the headlines now "NANCY PELOSI TO BECOME SPEAKER BECAUSE SHE FAVORS AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS".
Most of us grownups knew that the outcome of the speaker of the house vote was a forgone conclusion. Her views on amnesty were not much different than those of just about every other Democrat congressman that gave her that vote.
From this, you conclude that it was her stand on amnesty for illegals that put her in.
Uh no I won't. I was for Kyl/Cornyn, but it was your ilk who trashed them relelentlessly, but you got your just desserts with nancy pelosi.
J.D. Heyworth here in AZ5 didn't talk about anything but border fences for the last year. He lost.
The bottom line, the congress passed a border fence, but did *not* pass "amnesty", and the Repubs lost. Either the swing voters were mad because they think a fence is a simpleton answer to a complex question, or they wanted a more comprehensive approach and didn't get it. Either way, the enforcement only option is a loser.
"I believe that the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms must not be infringed if liberty in America is to survive."
Ronald Reagan
Oh pkease all one has to do is look at the disgusting remarks towards Mel Martinez on FR, a person who has the same ACU rating as Tom Tancredo, 100%.
Dane, any immigration bill will have to be signed by Bush. At the end of the day, he is responsible for what will happen.
I am opposed to a guest worker program for damn good reason, given the European problems from their such programs. If we truly need more people here, bring them in as full-status immigrants. Otherwise, stuff it.
For a while I was stupid enough to take you seriously.
That's a mistake I shall not repeat.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
And second, the ACU ratings blithely ignore the Senate shamnesty bill. Which means they are not serious about rating conservatives.
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