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AMERICA'S MAYOR SEEKS LARGER EMPIRE (Giuliani as presidential candidate is scary)
NY POST ^ | November 19, 2006 | VOX POPULI (letters to the editors)

Posted on 11/19/2006 5:37:05 AM PST by Liz

****......he won't be able to get conservatives on his presidential bandwagon. He is pro-choice and favors same-sex marriage, gun control and stem-cell research. He has to be able to swing Middle America. Name redacted Bellerose

**** Who is going to run Giuliani's exploratory committee? I understand Bernie Kerik, Russell Harding, Richard Roberts and a list of assorted cons are available from Giuliani's group of yes men. Maybe his driver will be our next attorney general. That's just what our country needs - more scandals. Whitestone

**** Giuliani was a terrible mayor, and has spent all his days promoting himself. Manhattan

**** Giuliani for president? What is happening to the moral high ground of the Republicans? It sounds like they are becoming the more corrupt and morally disgusting bunch of the two parties, yet they want Giuliani to lead the party of moral conviction and family values? Memphis, Tenn.

**** Giuliani as a presidential candidate is a scary concept. Manhattan

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TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: assassinsforhilary; baloneyarticle; bs; crapola; deadenders; gohitlery; gorudygo; hearsay; newamerica; paleoslastgasp; rudyhatersanonymous; whatajoke
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To: Liz

I can never vote for Rudy!!


241 posted on 11/19/2006 1:39:37 PM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: TET1968

The same people who say Rudy has no chance are the same people who thought Allen was going to be the nominee and believed there was a late rally for the Repubs and we were going to hold on or LOL even gain seats two weeks ago.

They live in an echo chamber, suffer from projection and think the polls are an MSM conspiracy. Their track record sux


242 posted on 11/19/2006 1:40:50 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: JCEccles

If you think we can win by talking about Michael Schiavo, sexy novels, and stemcell research, you're wrong.

We will win by putting terrorism and the economy front and center, not by ceding those issues to Hillary! Clinton.

That means we send up one of our big hitters. Giuliani convinced me this year when he argued that it is our right as Republicans to politicize the war on terror, since wars are inherently political and Republicans have a right to make our case.

We have an opportunity the p'nwn the Democrats in a big way and take back the Congress. Social conservatives of all people should see the value of this, since we're one judge away from overturning Roe v Wade and sending the issue back to the states. In contrast, Hillary! would pack the high court with two or three more activist judges and set the pro-family movement back decades.

Think. Please. Don't be a DUmmie.


243 posted on 11/19/2006 1:43:42 PM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: TET1968
Some communist can go on CNN and accuratletly state "Just browse Free Republic, you'll find there all homophobes and cross dressing image collectors. Look how they vilified America's mayor,Rudy Giuliani"

Do you know anyone who votes Republican that ever watches CNN except perhaps to monitor enemy propaganda?

Now and then, I tune it in and marvel that such claptrap and boring news presentation can attract any audience at all.

Beyond that, FreeRepublic has had far worse material than these Rudy threads over the years. Those haven't made headlines on libmedia. And the DUmmies and Kos Kids don't make headlines on Fox News.
244 posted on 11/19/2006 1:54:14 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: JHBowden
Run two social liberals for president and the Democrat will win.

Every time.

245 posted on 11/19/2006 1:55:58 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JHBowden
It's obvious that we live in different Americas.

I don't want any part of yours.

246 posted on 11/19/2006 1:57:55 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: StatenIsland; metalurgist
I never denied that Rudy may have some real accomplishments during his 8 years as mayor.

The main argument of the Rudy shills boils down to this: Conservatives are supposed to overlook his numerous character flaws, his enormous personal baggage, and his extreme and obnoxious liberal policies because he'd be tough on terrorism and the world's bad guys. As proof they offer his performance during and after 9/11. The shills make it sound as if Rudy's performance was greater than Churchill's in 1940, when Britain was teetering on the edge and almost went down to Hitler's Germany.

I simply have been asking for specific examples of this "great leadership" during and after 9/11 and still have only the two meager examples that I cited previously. Making speeches and tough rhetoric won't cut it against the terrorists, North Koreans, Iranians, etc., who, I am sure, are tougher and more resilient than the squeegee men of years past.

247 posted on 11/19/2006 1:58:03 PM PST by LiveFree99
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To: JCEccles

That's not the case.

Schwarzenegger won in a big way in liberal California, while Talent and Allen lost on our own turf to some pretty liberal people.

Our message sells in what is regarded as the most liberal areas of the country, but the need the message. Being 100% right on the issues won't do it alone, and going overboard with things like Terri Schiavo to appease the diehards actually hurts us.


248 posted on 11/19/2006 2:04:59 PM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: JHBowden
we need the message, ahem
249 posted on 11/19/2006 2:05:59 PM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: JHBowden

"hurts us."

Who? Who is us?


250 posted on 11/19/2006 2:08:39 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: George W. Bush

251 posted on 11/19/2006 2:09:28 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: George W. Bush

I am upping it. I want 40% after this. That is how we paid killahs role.


252 posted on 11/19/2006 2:14:04 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Liz

No, Hillary Clinton as Predsident is scary.


253 posted on 11/19/2006 2:16:07 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: Liz

This is a letter to the Editor of the NY Post. Obviously by a crank who hates Rudy to the Max.

Why copycat and repeat this crap? It has no meaning.

My experience is that almost all the Rudy haters are disgruntled Democrats in NYC. No indication at all of the popularity that Rudy has around the country.


254 posted on 11/19/2006 2:20:45 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: Liz

Hey Liz, we get it...you hate Rudy. This is not news, and is getting rather old and boring.


255 posted on 11/19/2006 2:22:18 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: Liz

So, Liz, what's you're position on Rudy for President? Are you for or against?


256 posted on 11/19/2006 2:24:18 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

you're = your


257 posted on 11/19/2006 2:24:56 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: maineman
FORBES 2008

He'd have my vote.

258 posted on 11/19/2006 2:41:35 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Dark Skies
Rudy’s Bernie Weekend
by Ben Smith
New York Observer
This column ran on page 17 in the 12/20/2004 edition of The New York Observer.

Three years and three months is a long time to keep your sainthood if you’re still among the living, so give Rudy Giuliani credit: He had a good run.But mark the date: On Dec. 11, 2004, in a splash of tabloid headlines, history returned to the man formerly known as "America’s Mayor." His attempt to install his former driver and rough-edged alter ego as the Secretary of Homeland Security backfired, his new Republican friends threw him overboard and, returning to New York, he found the city he’d once tamed turning on him, its cowed press militant and his old enemies—remember when Rudy had enemies?—gloating on television.

--SNIP--

You may reach Ben Smith via email at: bensmith@observer.com.

SOURCE http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage1.asp

259 posted on 11/19/2006 3:01:59 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: JHBowden
Being 100% right on the issues won't do it alone, and going overboard with things like Terri Schiavo to appease the diehards actually hurts us.

Not all of us supported the Schiavo thing. I didn't. I didn't support the Dubai ports flap either but I do live far inland so I left that one to the coastal people.
260 posted on 11/19/2006 3:03:11 PM PST by George W. Bush
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