[woodbutcher]

It does not appear to me that any of the repubs, including tongue tied Bush, has made what to me is the most obvious point.

The people who are yelling the loudest about how bloody it is in Iraq, how we must bring our troops home, how it is not worth it, etc.,
have no skin in the game other than political.

The troops come home, visit their families, re-enlist and go right back because they believe in it.

The people talking cut and run or versions of it, have no skin in the game.

Why does anyone listen to them? Only because it is personal. They hate Bush. They hate Bush

They hate Bush.

That is all there is to it.

Get Bush. That is more important than keeping the Middle East from turning into Europe 1939, more important than our deserting countries who have allied themselves thus losing all credibility, more important that the hundreds of thousands that will die in retribution for supporting us.

We should listen to the soldiers and tell the Peloski's to sit down and shut up.

[Slingshot]

To paraphrase, the fight goes to the most aggessive.

The aggression I see in the USA on the news media and in discussions with individuals, is aimed at one man, our President.

They are assuming he has dictatorial powers over most of the economy of the USA.

The center of the world economy has shifted to the Pacific region. The center of the Strategic Security of the World has shifted into Asia and embraces the hegemon of Iran.

Our Domestic Center is in Washington, but is Managed by a consortioum of influences from outside Washington.

The Democrats Understand full well that Europe is already being dissolved into Islam. How unusual that Europe would side with Iran et al against Israel.

My perception is probably skewed in a direction opposed by many others. But here it is.

As a Nation we are divided.

Half of us can't see what they are looking at.

The other half won't act in our defense for an extended period of time.

Therefore,I perceive we will become a Peaceful Nation as Europe is becoming. When islam takes over there is Peace, according to them.

The one-half of our nation that can't see will become victims again with no one or no place to run to.

I am not crying, I am clear eyed.

I see no grat desire to struggle against those that are working to destroy us. We just wonder why do they hate us.

Examine the instructions of Islam.
Read the speeches of the Imams.
Read the speeches of Arafat.
Listen to the President of Iran.
Listen to the leadership of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Syria.

Listen to our Congressmen and women.

The other side speaks to us preparing to destroy us.
Our "Leaders" say we need to "approach these nations in a more consiliatory fashion".

Now as an arm chair general, even I can see that the tactics used, guerilla, will obviously be successful against a Technological society with fragile infrastructure and will. We like to just go to work and then the soccer game or watch TV and not worry about the rest of the World.

They are waving their right hand in front of us and are reaching for our neck with their left.

We are easily Distracted.

I was born into a different USA. We don't have the same citizenry as used to live here.

In the 50's we wanted to produce products that would give us more leisure.

Then in the 70's and 80's we had the Leisure Class.

Now, we have a Leisure Nation, napping on the Titanic.