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Ah, but these people are a minority living in an Infidel, not a Muslim, state, are they not?

No. (That argument would in any case be moot in liberal, Western democracy.) As I mentioned there are for instance imams even in Iran who hold this position, and for obvious reasons are thereby in opposition to their government. But continue to pretend they don't exist or don't matter. That will it just that much easier for Iran, who of course is one of our main enemies, to kill, arrest and suppress them.

Ask CAIR - which is supposedly "moderate"

I agree that CAIR are fake moderates. Indeed I agree, even insist on emphasizing the fact, that there are MANY fake moderates. (The same was true, btw, during the Cold War.) The existence of fake moderates is no reason to ignore and undermine real moderate (or otherwise anti-Islamist) Muslims. Indeed the existence of fake moderates -- the fact that our enemy feels a need to co-opt, subvert and neuter the moderate stance -- only points that our enemy fears the potential influence of moderates, else why bother with the charades?

I want to encourage, buildup and legitimize what my enemy fears. I continue to be amazed that many freepers instead choose to legitimize and endorse the Islamist claim that theirs is the only legitimate and possible version of Islam. Why advance the propaganda of our enemy?

"(That argument would in any case be moot in liberal, Western democracy.) "

No, it wouldn't.

" But continue to pretend they don't exist or don't matter."

They don't matter. Their position is far too weak both politically and textually.

"The existence of fake moderates is no reason to ignore and undermine real moderate (or otherwise anti-Islamist) Muslims. "

There may be moderate Muslims, but there is NO moderate Islam. That's the point.

"I continue to be amazed that many freepers instead choose to legitimize and endorse the Islamist claim that theirs is the only legitimate and possible version of Islam."

Ignoring this fact is dangerous and avoids the problem. Just look at the example Mohammad set for his followers. THAT should tell you what Islam is.

Me: "Indeed I agree, even insist on emphasizing the fact, that there are MANY fake moderates."

I should emphasize that even more. In fact exposing the impostitures of fake moderates is one of the most important ways we can support real moderate Muslims.