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I honestly suspect that those who have an emotional knee jerk reaction to HOAs have issues with the wealth and quality of living that they represent.

No, you're wrong. I suspect they have issues with Elitists who believe a person's value is in direct proportion to the size of his house, or price of his car, or the size of his boat, or the amount of control he can have over other people's lives.

Same thing. Thanks for proving my point.

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No, you're wrong. I suspect they have issues with Elitists who believe a person's value is in direct proportion to the size of his house, or price of his car, or the size of his boat, or the amount of control he can have over other people's lives. "

Works both ways. There are a lot of people on this board that think people that make money and have things are either lucky or cheats. I personnally know lots of very rich people and nearly all work their a$$es off.

As far as smoking, I think 1) people have the right to organize, follow due process and then regulate it any way they choose or can figure out. 2) people that smoke typically have a horrible chemical addiction that makes them irrational defending the addiction. The feel under personal assault because the thing they cannot live without is being challenged. It has to be very scary. We should not argue with them but pray they can overcome their addiction.