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1 posted on 11/17/2006 4:36:15 AM PST by unionblue83
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2 posted on 11/17/2006 4:37:07 AM PST by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: unionblue83
"An al-Qaeda manual made a surprise reappearance on October 31st in a new repackaged, reformatted edition on an online jihadi forum associated with the terrorist organization."

Just in time for the holidays.
3 posted on 11/17/2006 4:41:05 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: unionblue83

The Christians? Isn't that a broad target... like the West? Othewise, where is he going to hit next? The convents? Vatican City?


5 posted on 11/17/2006 4:51:50 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: unionblue83

Ain't it nice that we now have a representative of this group in Congress. Just when you think it cannot possibly get any better. Thank you, Peoples' Republic of Minnesota.


6 posted on 11/17/2006 4:55:45 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: unionblue83; melancholy
Thank you for the thread, "unionblue83"!!!

"melancholy"...here's another one which might interest you.

Nancee

8 posted on 11/17/2006 5:01:35 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: unionblue83

Oh they dont mean me so I aint gonna be concerned...

That was the hint I got from several when I informed them of the Glenn Beck special the other night.


10 posted on 11/17/2006 5:07:36 AM PST by crz
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To: unionblue83
Al-Qaeda: Kill the Christians

BRING IT ON, MEAT!

11 posted on 11/17/2006 5:09:00 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: unionblue83
Someone's freakin' out right now ...


20 posted on 11/17/2006 5:34:45 AM PST by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad on The Red Cross.)
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To: unionblue83
the only proper role for Christians and Jews are as subjected and submissive dhimmis – legal non-persons
Evidently the secular leftists of Europe and American think that they are off the hook. They aren't.
22 posted on 11/17/2006 5:38:50 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: unionblue83
Beloved ones, I bring you the great, joyful news, which is the coming attack in America...

That is a de facto declaration of war. It should authorize us to regard ALL Muslims worldwide as enemy combatants, until they prove otherwise by turning in or taking out "radicals". If Hafid Abu-Basir can be found, he should be terminated along with the 10-20,000 in nearest proximity to him, as an example.

When war has been declared upon you, you are under no obligation to wait until the enemy has fired his first shot.

23 posted on 11/17/2006 5:39:40 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: unionblue83

So the jihadists and the left have almost the same goals.
Jihadists: kill the Christians
Left: eliminate Christianity
both are a danger to our way of life.


24 posted on 11/17/2006 5:40:08 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Left + Jihad. The alliance that seeks to eliminate Western Civilization, and us)
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"The manual, A Guide for the Undecided on the Legitimacy of Killing Christians..."

US Marines have a manual too, and are very decided on the legitimacy of killing murderous al-Qaeda operatives.
  







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38 posted on 11/17/2006 6:48:13 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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43 posted on 11/18/2006 6:16:38 AM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: unionblue83
Arm up.

I think I see the New Holocaust on the horizon. I sure hope it can be averted.

No more muslims in Congress, OK?

45 posted on 11/18/2006 6:47:15 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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To: unionblue83
You know, Adolf Hitler wrote in "Mein Kampf" exactly what his plans were, and once he took power in Germany, people still didn't believe that he would do what he said he would...

Amalangadingdong in Iran has been doing the same sort of thing for some time...

It seems to me that politicians and "statesmen" believe that words are tokens in some sort of a game... That they don't really have any connection to actions... I think that's one of the things that has them so confused and angry with President Bush... Because you're supposed to say things, not actually do things!

Mark

48 posted on 11/18/2006 8:32:28 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: unionblue83

Beloved ones, I bring you the great, joyful news, which is the coming attack in America, with the permission of Allah, in a new wonderful method.

Everytime I read this it brings to mind Luke 2:10 when the angel says "Behold, I bring you glad tidings of great joy which shall be for all the people..."

It's just striking to me, the difference in the great, joyful news.


50 posted on 11/18/2006 9:03:13 AM PST by In_The_Vine
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To: unionblue83

Why should this surprise us?


52 posted on 11/18/2006 10:45:40 AM PST by tob2 ( "I may not be perfect but I'm always me." Anon.)
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To: unionblue83
Here's a short essay I wrote last January that is part of my FR homepage:


Okay, I'm going to try to summarize in general how it is that Western Civilization is the Dajjal, for those imams who read Dajjal as a metaphor, and not a literal individual person. This is cobbled together from a number of sources I've read. (And I don't know Arabic, Persian, or Urdu, so my sources are from the tiny fraction of Dajjal literature in English.)

a) The word "Dajjal" literally translates as "Deceiver."

b) From the Muslim, Qur'anic point of view, Jesus was a prophet of Allah, who taught that Allah is the One Undifferentiated God. Anyone who says that God is a Trinity of Three Persons, and that Jesus is one of those Divine Persons, is deceiving. If he says it because he believes it, he is both deceived and deceiving.

Hence, Christianity is itself an AntiChrist, because it is teaching the "opposite" of what Christ taught.

The evangelists and especially St. Paul "did not understand" who Jesus was and what he taught. And the texts of the Bible "have been corrupted" by deceivers over the centuries to support the dogma of the Trinity. Some imams might say the early Church was good and Islamic, but that corruption set in with Constantine and the Council of Nicaea. Regardless, to get the "truly infallible" account of Jesus, one must read the Qur'an.

But that’s not all.

c) The Dajjal of the hadith is not merely a deceiver - he is the greatest menace ever to scourge the earth from Adam to the Last Trumpets.

d) At the time Muhammed was alive, the Christians were not the Dajjal. They might have been deceived and deceitful, but back then they generally kept to themselves in Europe and thereabouts. For those imams, this “explains” why in Muhammed’s hadith, he talks about the Dajjal as an evil yet to come.

e) The Christians didn’t start "menacing the whole planet" until the explorers of the 15th and 16th centuries.

f) So now we get into the history of colonization of the world by the European Christian powers, the exploitation of nonwhite races throughout the world, slavery, the pillaging of the world’s land and natural resources by the conquering European nations, etc., etc., etc.

g) Meanwhile, with the Age of Enlightenment, European (and American) people are becoming more secular, agnostic, and atheistic (more levels of deceitfulness). With the progress of science and technology, they care more about external material things than about internal spiritual pursuits. With the rise of industrial capitalism, people and the environment are exploited on every level, and the West truly becomes a menace to the entire globe.

h) And let’s not forget the spread of Western Culture throughout the world. On the one hand you have musical instruments, immodestly dressed women, novels and films spreading sinful morality, etc.

On the other hand you have Christian missionaries converting people around the world, slandering Muhammed and the Qur’an, and working hand-in-hand with the governments and banks back in Europe and America.

i) I’ve been focusing on the Christianity of the West, but my Jewish friends should not feel left out. That’s where the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” comes in. The Trinitarian Christians may be the figurehead Deceivers menacing the globe, but behind the scenes they themselves are being led around by a secret council of Jewish planners and financiers pulling the strings.

j) Q.E.D. The Dajjal is a metaphor for the West.

k) Now in the hadith Muhammed prophesies that the Mahdi will arise who will be the greatest Muslim since Muhammed. 'Isha (the Qur’an’s version of Jesus) will descend on a cloud and fight under the Mahdi in jihad. Together they will kill the Dajjal and spread Islam and shar’ia law throughout the planet.

l) Okay, now we’re going to get into some tricky interpretation here. Is the Mahdi an individual person, or a metaphor for a social movement of Muslims to oppose Western Civilization and everything for which it stands? If he’s an individual, will the Mahdi be the actual person to duel with the Dajjal, or might he be an individual who gets the ball rolling whereby the Dajjal’s inevitable demise is set in motion (*cough*BinLaden*cough*).

If the Dajjal is a metaphor, why shouldn’t the Mahdi be a metaphor?

But if a literal person, there are lots and lots of candidates in the past and present, and I’m sure there will be more in the future. An imam can pick his favorite one.

m) Now, what does “killing the Dajjal” mean? For some terrorist imams, that means chopping off the heads of every Westerner.

For the nicer, pacifist, we-are-in-the-end-times imams, that means the Mahdi will (“like Muhammed”) be a preacher and he will lead a "spiritual jihad" of converting the West to Islam. The hadith says that “the sun will rise in the west,” so this is interpreted to mean that the light of Islam will spread throughout the West.

n) After killing the Dajjal (whichever way), the Mahdi will govern the planet in perfect peace, justice and prosperity. Then the trumpets will sound, time will end, and the Day of Judgment will arrive. Allah will judge all souls (well, except for the prophets and martyrs since they are already in Paradise) and they will go to Paradise or Hell for all eternity.

o) I’ve dealt with the Dajjal as a metaphor for Western Civilization. For a more literal treatment of the Dajjal as a coming future individual person who will use the Western nations, the UN, the IMF, etc. as his power base, revise the scenario accordingly.

BTW, when thought of as an individual, many imams say he will be Jewish, although no hadith says this.


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I myself am an amillennialist. I do not believe we are living in the End Times, whether by this prophecy or that prophecy. I don’t particularly mind if someone does choose to believe in millennialism, unless that person starts using that as an excuse to attack my countrymen. At which point I take it as my duty to alert my fellow countrymen and our allies as to how millennial beliefs are a factor in the attacks.

53 posted on 11/18/2006 6:59:16 PM PST by Dajjal
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54 posted on 11/19/2006 5:26:38 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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In case there's any question about what we face.


55 posted on 11/20/2006 4:58:23 AM PST by sauropod ("Come have some pie with me.")
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