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So, you send me to a website/blog of someone critical of Warren's books. Let me see, who will have more influence over my thinking: A). A senior pastor of one of the largest SBC churches in America with over 25 years of leading people to Christ, church growth experience and scholarly degrees. Or B). Some guy who writes a blog that says this about himself: "I've been involved in ministry to men since 1995" - yeah, that is a real tough choice.

I appreciate his motorcycle pictures on his blog, but I would tend to find someone with a little more weight behind their critical thinking skills if I were using them as an object lesson.

I just went deeper into this blog site you sent me to - you know you really ought to do a little more research before you go promoting someone's site like you did. This "Stuart Brogden" and his motorcycle-picture webpage does provide links to his personally written stuff critical of Rick Warren's ministry and especially "40 Days of Purpose." He is entitled to his opinion just as I am. However, he loses any respect for his arguments when also on his website is a link to "his church" that goes to a website for "Houston NW Church." A quick read of this church's website (if this is really his church) shows the "Next Step Classes." His church says that people/members can "take the 101/202/301/401 classes" for their next steps. Who do you think came up with this concept? Yeah, that's right, Rick Warren - and this Houston church doesn't have the kindness (or honesty) of giving credit for the idea they stole/borrowed from Rick and Saddleback.

I have no problem getting into a good theological discussion with the next brother or sister, but let's call it what it really is - a disagreement or difference of opinion on theological or doctrinal issues. I believe we (in love) focus on the "major issues" and, with grace and mercy, honestly debate and discuss the non-major things of our faith. However, much on this thread has little to do with grace and mercy but more on innuendo and second-hand information (read: "gossip").

As I indicated in my post, I have reviewed both of his Purpose Driven book. My critical reviews can be found here - http://brogdensmuse.menofhonorministry.org/Apologetics.htm

Check out the "Useful Links" on that site to find some sites that offer other critical reviews of Warren's teaching.