Student shot with Taser by UCPD officers (Commie Alert)

Daily Bruin ^ | November 15, 2006 | Lisa Connolly, Derek Lipkin and Saba Riazati,

[radar101]

UCPD officers shot a student several times with a Taser inside the Powell Library CLICC computer lab late Tuesday night before taking him into custody.

No university police officers were available to comment further about the incident as of 3 a.m. Wednesday, and no Community Service Officers who were on duty at the time could be reached.

At around 11:30 p.m., CSOs asked a male student using a computer in the back of the room to leave when he was unable to produce a BruinCard during a random check. The student did not exit the building immediately.

The CSOs left, returning minutes later, and police officers arrived to escort the student out. By this time the student had begun to walk toward the door with his backpack when an officer approached him and grabbed his arm, at which point the student told the officer to let him go. A second officer then approached the student as well.

The student began to yell "get off me," repeating himself several times.

It was at this point that the officers shot the student with a Taser for the first time, causing him to fall to the floor and cry out in pain. The student also told the officers he had a medical condition.

UCPD officers confirmed that the man involved in the incident was a student, but did not give a name or any additional information about his identity.

Video shot from a student's camera phone captured the student yelling, "Here's your Patriot Act, here's your fucking abuse of power," while he struggled with the officers.

As the student was screaming, UCPD officers repeatedly told him to stand up and said "stop fighting us." The student did not stand up as the officers requested and they shot him with the Taser at least once more.

"It was the most disgusting and vile act I had ever seen in my life," said David Remesnitsky, a 2006 UCLA alumnus who witnessed the incident.

As the student and the officers were struggling, bystanders repeatedly asked the police officers to stop, and at one point officers told the gathered crowd to stand back and threatened to use a Taser on anyone who got too close.

Laila Gordy, a fourth-year economics student who was present in the library during the incident, said police officers threatened to shoot her with a Taser when she asked an officer for his name and his badge number.

Gordy was visibly upset by the incident and said other students were also disturbed.

"It's a shock that something like this can happen at UCLA," she said. "It was unnecessary what they did."

Immediately after the incident, several students began to contact local news outlets, informing them of the incident, and Remesnitsky wrote an e-mail to Interim Chancellor Norman Abrams.

[monday]

"Also, I don't believe he is muslim, I think he may be of Armenian Christian background based on a book review he wrote on a book about the Armenian Massacre. Not a typical muslim point of view."

Wonder why he had a problem with the Patriot Act then? Doesn't he know it was designed to catch Muslims who want to kill his sorry Christian @ss?

[AmishDude]

The CSOs left, returning minutes later

You are undermining your point. Why was he still there, "minutes later"?

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

In a south central Texas town about two days ago, a man trying to work out a problem with his wife over finances went into a bank. He left the bank and four officers came in looking for him. He came back. This time SIX sheriff's officers went up to him, grabbed him and roughly handcuffed him and he didn't have a clue as to what was going on, even asking the first officer "How are you doing today?" when the officer slid up next to him initially. The wife showed up at the bank and he and his wife were talking calmly after the handcuffing -- so the witness did not have any idea as to why they treated the man like a hardened criminal.

The witness to this event stated that the man specifically did not have a clue as to what was going on. They pushed him around and were VERY rough with him. People have gone nuts and so is law enforcement in some areas, apparently.

[BurbankKarl]

This isnt a camera phone either.

[P-Marlowe]

You still have not read the statute, have you? Did you find your law degree in one of these:

[monday]

"Given the current debate on GWOT interrogations, I wonder if you really mean that."

When someone is lying on the floor and screams every time that they are tasered, it is going to resemble torture to the casual observer. Why do you think the students were asking for badge numbers etc? They thought they were witnessing torture.

[driftdiver]

"gee... no kidding?"

No Im not kidding, so you agree your comparison was false?

"So why were the UCP doing it? I suspect they were angry at the punk for acting like a punk."

They didn't sound like they had lost control or were "angry". In fact they sounded calm and professional.

"The UCP needed to step back and realize they were being baited into reacting with violence. They acted very unprofessionally."

ok so they should ignore law breakers because they are being "baited"? Thats pretty foolish.

[SUSSA]

Your point is?

Do you think he should be assaulted because he didn't move fastenough to suit the CSO? How fast is fast enough for you? How do you know your idea of what is fast enough is the same as the CSO's? Is your determination of what is fast enough better than the CSO's?

What punishment do you support for not moving fast enough to suit a CSO? What punishment would want handed to you if you didn't move fast enough to suit a CSO?

[SUSSA]

I've even posted it for you. Get someone to read it to you.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Yeah. The Daily Bruin. A bastion of conservatism, I'm sure. hahahahahaha... probably directly funding Al Qaida and the DNC.

[BurbankKarl]

He had plenty of time to comply...CSOs had to call the cops, and it would have taken a couple minutes.

We can have some more videos here in SoCal, with the B-grade journalists we have to stir it all up again. Except it will be the rich liberal areas on fire this time.

Ho hum...

[AmishDude]

Do you think he should be assaulted because he didn't move fastenough to suit the CSO?

How else do you get him out? If he won't move himself, you have to move him. It's a basic law of physics.

How fast is fast enough for you?

"Minutes" is plenty of time. But none of this matters, everyone acknowledges and the video shows that he was purposefully resisting arrest. He was trying to make a scene.

How do you know your idea of what is fast enough is the same as the CSO's?

Doesn't matter. By being there without ID, he was trespassing. Last I heard, a private property owner was allowed to shoot trespassers. I think the time that elapses to leave and return with a police officer is plenty, thank you.

[BurbankKarl]

All I know is there are going to be some great signs at the UCLA/USC game in December.

[SUSSA]

How long is plenty of time? How do you know how long he had? How do you know that your definition of plenty of time is the same as the CSO’s. What makes you definition of plenty of time better than someone else’s?

[P-Marlowe]

How else do you get him out? If he won't move himself, you have to move him. It's a basic law of physics.

They could have brought in a team of construction workers with big cranes and moved the building to someplace where he wasn't.

[radar101]

You should investigate the background further.
WHO sent the Deputies?
What were the Deputies told?
Is there any previous history on the man that was detained?

[monday]

"No one would be happy if the UCP were shot."

"A lot of people would be happy. There are plenty of anarchists and communists and terrorists and gang members who would like nothing more than to see police officers being shot and killed on a regular basis."

I was talking about people posting on this thread, or are you accusing anyone who disagrees with you of being one of the above?

"And quite frankly, advocating destroying a man's career over an incident like this is tantamount to wanting to see him dead. People quite often commit suicide when their careers are destroyed. Their lives are permanently ruined, whereas this perp's life was temporarily inconvienienced."

You are such a drama queen. How do you function in everyday society?

"You have advocated firing these fine young men based on nothing more than reading this thread and vieiwing a video that, quite frankly, shows a perp with an attitude resisting arrest and otherwise taunting the police to do exactly what they did."

They need to look for a line of work where their tempers won't get them in trouble. Being a police officer is difficult work, but the minimum requirement is that a police officer show good judgment. Their judgement is often the difference between life and death. Escorting a non violent trespasser off the premises does not require violence. Especially if the trespasser is leaving on his own.

"What do you do for a living? Anything? Or do you just sit here online and condemn police officers all day?"

None of your damn business.

[SUSSA]

Do you think he should be assaulted because he didn't move fast enough to suit the CSO?

How else do you get him out? If he won't move himself, you have to move him. It's a basic law of physics.

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He was leaving before he was assaulted. the assault prevented him from leaving.
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How fast is fast enough for you?

"Minutes" is plenty of time. But none of this matters, everyone acknowledges and the video shows that he was purposefully resisting arrest. He was trying to make a scene.

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How many minutes is plenty of time? How many minutes passed before he was assaulted?

The vidio starts after he was assaulted. Everyone agrees he was leaving when assaulted.

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How do you know your idea of what is fast enough is the same as the CSO's?

Doesn't matter. By being there without ID, he was trespassing. Last I heard, a private property owner was allowed to shoot trespassers. I think the time that elapses to leave and return with a police officer is plenty, thank you.

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He wasn't trespassing. He violated a school rule. Do you advocate shooting students who violate a school rule?

How long did it take to come back with the cops? Were they in the other room or across town?

He was leaving as instructed when he was assaulted. Everyone agrees on that point. That's where the situation escalated.

[monday]

" Last I heard, a private property owner was allowed to shoot trespassers."

Sheesh ... You heard wrong. You may shoot trespassers only if you don't mind going to prison for it.

[TrogdortheBurninator]

That's why I insist that this whole thing was sketchy, and seems like the kid wasn't as innocent as he seems.