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To: Sam Hill
Name one thing that the current administration did that was un-Constitutional?

The indefinite detaining and torture of the terrorists was clearly unconstitutional and the Supreme court agreed.

Much of what the Government routinely does is unconstitutional, bribing witnesses, gun control laws, extortion, regulating private activities, taking property, etc. Sadly most of the serfs, and specifically you Sam Hill, are complicit in these activities, if for no other reason than you don't try and stop them. We still have a Democracy, at least for a little while, but we are no longer free.

You won't, because you can't.

I understand that you don't recognize those actions as being unconstitutional because you have been trained to obey your masters and it is hard to think for yourself.

Right now the main battle ground is taxes and government spending. All of the other problems pale in comparison. If you don't have the right to benefit from your labors, nothing else matters. On this point most true conservatives and libertarians agree.

So my question to you, Sam Hill and all the rest of you who are attacking Libertarians, why are you berating your staunchest allies? We may disagree on the limits of personal freedom (Libertarians want more rather than less) but I believe we are fundamentally on the same side. Yes a few Libertarians refused to hold their noses and vote for the Republicans, but by far the majority try to make the best of the very limited options we have :(

Yes the Republicans lost the Congress by a very narrow margin, but the truth is that they never really had it. The Rino's actually dictated what could and couldn't be done. Now the moderate Democrats (many of whom are more conservative than the Rinos) get to control the Democratic party. And before you get too upset, yes I am well aware of the who the speakers will be, but they will have exactly the same problem holding their coalitions together that the Republicans had. Look for very little to happen in the next two years and that is a very good thing.

254 posted on 11/15/2006 8:12:12 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

"The indefinite detaining and torture of the terrorists was clearly unconstitutional and the Supreme court agreed."

The Contitution applies to non-citizens who are captured making war against the US?

Yeah, you know your stuff all right.

God help this republic with clucks like you voting. Or did you stay home?

I hope you did. I think all libertarians should (all 3,000 of you).

You are nothing but wreckers and well-poisoners. The suicide bombers of American politics.

And just because you want to smoke dope.


257 posted on 11/15/2006 8:18:13 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: LeGrande

"Yes the Republicans lost the Congress by a very narrow margin, but the truth is that they never really had it. The Rino's actually dictated what could and couldn't be done. Now the moderate Democrats (many of whom are more conservative than the Rinos) get to control the Democratic party."

What planet are you on?

Have you seen who will control Congress -- who will chair what committees?

It is like talking to brain damaged children to try to have a discussion with libertarians.

There's probably a reason for that. Why do you think they call it dope?

Does Soros pay good benefits?


261 posted on 11/15/2006 8:24:22 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: LeGrande
"Right now the main battle ground is taxes and government spending. All of the other problems pale in comparison."

How right you are.

262 posted on 11/15/2006 8:28:22 AM PST by Sam Hill
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