[beyond the sea]

Isn't the problem that the American people were solidly behind this when you went in and you toppled the Taliban, when you go in and you topple Saddam. But when it just seems to be a kind of thankless semi-colonial policing defensive operation with no end . . . I mean, where is the offense in this?"

[goldstategop]

My take is Americans would STILL be solidly behind Iraq if the President was going to do whatever it takes to win. But I beg to differ with Mark here: if all we're going to be doing is engage in a long drawn out colonial policing operation, then the Democrats are right: its time to leave. If the President won't put enough boots on the ground to win, its time to pull up stakes and go home. America is not suited to be an imperial overlord and we don't want the thankless role of one.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus