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To: James Ewell Brown Stuart
I do understand what is at stake. We have to win there in order to maintain our power and to create a deterrence to future aggression. Somewhere we have to draw a line and send a message to our enemies we are committed to defeating them because in the end, its the existence of our country that is on the line.

That's what Iraq is all about. We always knew the elements we removed from power after our invasion and Al Qaeda would oppose our objectives of making Iraq a free and democratic country that would be a model for the rest of the region and not pose a threat to its neighbors. That ought to be the minimum we should settle for as a victory criterion and its in keeping with America's deepest ideals. In short, the security of a friendly people is an investment in our own security as well. I don't think the President has tried to get across to the American people why the Bush Doctrine would both enhance our national security and help to free a violence-prone region of the world run by murderous despots. Its both conservative and Wilsonian. I haven't changed my mind about the Iraq War. I believed then and I believe now it was absolutely the right thing to do. Now we need to win.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

29 posted on 11/12/2006 3:48:30 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Again, I am not saying that you don't understand what is at stake. I have not said that...

Where you and I disagree is whether the President has gotten across why the Bush doctrine is important. I think he has. I think he has told us over and over again what he is doing, why it must be done, and what is at stake, why we must stay, and why we cannot leave.

There is not going to be a Hollywood moment where he will speak and the people as one will embrace what he says. He has been stating the Bush Doctrine since 9/11...he keeps repeating it... I don't think it is his fault that we are not listening.

38 posted on 11/12/2006 3:59:48 AM PST by James Ewell Brown Stuart (Sorry, we don't want to stick around to see if we win; we'd rather vote ourselves off the island.)
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To: goldstategop

"both enhance our national security and help to free a violence-prone region of the world run by murderous despots"

I think it would help immensely if we stopped giving speeches using exactly those kinds of words. They are buzz words and quite boring. When Bush speaks in that language for 1/2 hour there is nothing moving or inspirational about it. It's also better to call terrorists the 'enemy'. Enemy is a better word or we need one even better than that. Islamicfacists was a good one but then Bush back tracked on it cause he let the libs shame us on saying it how it was.

We need to have different types of things we want to accomplish on a consistent basis put into a short list. Then anytime we accomplish one of those (which should be on a weekly basis stuff like rebuilding and killing IslamicFacists) we should trumpet them about! ^_^


62 posted on 11/12/2006 4:57:24 AM PST by kuma (Mark Sanford '08 http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html)
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To: goldstategop

The America hating left and their cohorts in the MSM had a victory in Viet Nam and wanted to replicate that loss to make sure that America is denigrated the world over.


80 posted on 11/12/2006 5:49:25 AM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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