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To: Rokke; All
Has anyone actually tried to analyze these numbers in this study? I have and all I get is a big zero.

First, I have to question their methodology for determining turnout. They use “eligible” voters to determined their percentages and go into an explanation of why. Then they explain why they don’t use “registered” voters. I fail to understand how someone is eligible to vote if they aren't registered and why that would be a better measurement, but, that’s probably just a matter of definition.

Second , they say that the TOTAL raw number votes for dims and pubbies was the same in 2006 as in 2002.
Dims had 31.7 mil, pubs had 29.9 mil for a total of 61.6 mil in 2006
Dims had 32.8 mil, pubs had 28.8 mil for a total of 61.6 mil in 2002.
It says nothing about WHO voted for WHO to comprise those numbers. You may have gut feelings about how the registered dims and registered pubs voted but you can’t tell it from this study.

So the bottom line to their study is “more people voted for dims than pubs and the pubs lost”. With all due respect, I think we’re capable of figuring that one out.

Now, although I am unable to reach any conclusions from the numbers in this study other than the pubs lost because they got less votes, this bunch easily determines that “the 2006 election was a total repudiation of the Karl Rove/Dick Cheney version of conservatism.” That may or may not be true but I’d really like to know how they reached that conclusion.

Third, although I recoil at the thought of using their percentages, one interests me from pg 11 of their study:< BR> In 2006, Pub registration was 31.0, dim was 36.8 and other was 16.7.
In 2002, Pub registration was 30.2, dim was 37.2 and other was 14.4.
They go on to explain why those numbers don’t add up to 100% but that’s not what interests me. What’s interesting is that the Pub & Dim percentages are virtually a wash BUT the “other” was a full 2.3 increase in 2006 over 2002.
This is what Ed Goeas of the Tarrance Group attributes as one of the major factors in the Pub losses....other voters, i.e. I’s, L’s, young people, etc..

Now, maybe I’ve missed the whole point of this study. Maybe it’s right there in front of me and I’m just not seeing it...but...if anyone does, please let me know.

I have no dog in this hunt, no pet theory that I’m protecting, just a desire to get the facts straight and prepare for the Beast in 2008.

175 posted on 11/11/2006 8:20:45 PM PST by evad
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To: evad; Rokke; All
Shiite...I knew I would type something incorrectly.

Second , they say that the TOTAL raw number votes for dims and pubbies was the same in 2006 as in 2002.
Dims had 31.7 mil, pubs had 29.9 mil for a total of 61.6 mil in 2006
2002 results SHOULD READ:
Dims had 28.8 mil, pubs had 32.8 mil for a total of 61.6 mil in 2002.

176 posted on 11/11/2006 8:26:31 PM PST by evad
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To: evad
"With all due respect, I think we’re capable of figuring that one out."

Dammit. I thought I was going to be able to contribute something useful to your analysis. I am just going to assume that like anything else involving politics and numbers, the facts of this election won't be discernible until all impact of those facts is irrelevant. As you've already stated, I think all we know for sure at this point is that more voters voted for democrats than Republicans. That might be all we need to know.

178 posted on 11/11/2006 8:34:29 PM PST by Rokke
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